What, exactly, constitutes a win?

POLLS SCHMOLLS. There is not one person here who has ever been polled, and nobody here knows anybody who has ever been polled.

pay attention to truth, not polls.

Granny, you warming up your voice.?

"...the fat lady hasn't even sung yet..."---Granny Tenderstone

Which will sing the chorus of Obama's:

"It Were the Protestors Incited By the Movie (which in Itself incited murderous protests around the world),

"Fast and Furious Was Really Just A 'Botch Job',"

and (though state Republicans are up to their necks in it), and, maybe,

"MxGov Officials Can Be Provided Our Voter Registration Forms, They're US Citizens---Too!"

What planet are you from?
if your a granny like me you will be from the dead planet if Obama wins,
he does not care about the elderly who will suffer as much as our grand children will.
please wake up and do the right thing for our country.

"Man is not free unless goverment is limited"
George Washington
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Joe Biden proved to be a disgrace to this country with his joker like face laughing at such serious problems this country is facing. He had proven to us last night he is so not vice presidential, he belongs in a pysch ward along with your incompetant so called leader of the free world (what a joke they both are)

If you really are a granny then you have lived long enough not to let the slings and arrows of emotional reactionaries bother you much. I have little use for Obama but it's because he has let his white half rule his actions in the White House which is funny if you think about it because most of the hatred directed toward him is due to the fact that he is considered a Black Man. At any rate this election as usual is about the lesser of two evils and Barack can't hold a candle to his opponent in that sphere. People seem to have forgotten that the man who stole two elections put our Nation where it is. He had 8 years to damage and shred the Constitution and Obama hasn't had half that time to try to correct it with his efforts being blocked every step of the way by a Congress and Senate that belongs to the 1%.

Hey Granny: Are those lies like the lies Obama has told us regarding the "Workplace Violence" at Fort Hood, the "Spontaneous YouTube Protest" in Bengazi, the cost of ObamaCare, "no new taxes for the middle class", ObamaCare penalties "are not a tax", or the $5Trillion addition to the national debt, when Obama said he would "halve the deficit"?

You wanna' talk lies? Let's get specific and stop the demagoguery, Darlin'.

Mike Steele

Spoken by a true fan of Karl Marx. Do you also speak Chinese?

I see you've bought into the spin line...Liar Liar Liar..Get a job, if you can find one

"He had 8 years to damage and shred the Constitution and Obama hasn't had half that time to try to correct it..."---Philip B Wood

"Correct it"?

You're daft.

He's surpassed Bush Jr in destroying it.

If a liar is a liar, what about the month of lies to cover up the failure of this Administration to protect out diplomats in Libya? Ambassador Rice lied, David Axelrod lied, Secretary Clinton lied, and the President of the United States lied.....for weeks, even though they knew the truth about the attacks within 24 hours. When Nixon lied about a break-in in Watergate, he was shoved out of office. Obama, and every one of his Administration, lies about 4 dead American Consulate staff, including the first murdered Ambassador since 1979, and he goes on a fundraising trip to Vegas the same day....I have a hard time with that...

MMB....too true....

and please, let us not forget the 3.8% Fed tax on sales of homes in 2013. On just a 100K home, that's 3800.00 at closing. It's in the Obamacare bill. Thanks Democrats

and she probably knows more than you think, Glen. She dates a member of Obama's Staff. Not sure her role could ever be completely neutral. May have been hard to pick up on if you weren't aware of this, but because I knew it was clear she was not always objective.

Obama worked on the Harvard Law Review with Raddatz’s ex-husband, Julius Genachowski. Genachowski was later appointed by Obama as chair of the Federal Communications Commission and invited Obama to his 1991 wedding to Raddatz - details that raise questions about a potential conflict of interest??

Does this report raise legitimate concerns about Raddatz? Or is the connection too far removed to be a conflict of interest?

It is easy to tell which side she is one....

And let's not forget the people 55 and over that lost their jobs and can't get hired.

Phyllis, I am 59 and I have been unemployed for nearly three years. But I do not blame that on the President. I would say that regardless of who was in the White House. And I don't think I'll get a job if Romney wins either. Sure, a President can "create" jobs (maybe), but they will be jobs that are physically demanding and that will apply to just certain people. I really don't know what the answer is.

What spoiled children we are to think that digging out of the hole Boy George and the GOP leadership dug for us would be easy. And now R&R want to embrace the very policies that got us in the hole in the first place. Is there something missing here? Maybe common sense?

who told you that LIE Linda Leon? obviously you don't do your own homework. lazy!!

come to Athens GA and tell me there are no jobs. CONSTRUCTION IS BOOMING EVERYWHERE, new businesses, everywhere, renovations, everywhere, FIND OUT THE FACTS -- you can't drive a mile in this city without seeing WORK happening in GREAT ABUNDANCE.
some folks believe what they want to believe.

Gosh Granny, I suppose that would be Obama-supporter logic. If construction is booming in tiny Athens, Georgia, then it must represent the entire nation. I'll make sure and tell all those unemployed people in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and other swing states that since they can't find a job that they must be lazy since things are booming in tiny Athens, Georgia.

Nancy, let me ask you something. Do you have a Granny? I am a Granny and I can tell you one thing... um um

My dear Grandpa:

Perhaps you meant Tranny...

I have said nothing defensive at all nancy, I have only presented my perspective. But then prejudiced people who worship the letter R like to lie about everything, calling things what they aren't and denying what things ARE. I don't have to be defensive about anything, because TRUTH works for me, the rightists are all filthy liars, and you have fallen for their lies. GET BUSY DOING YOUR OWN HOMEWORK instead of letting lying entertainment channel (fox, their legal status) fools do it for you, and then doing it all wrong. some people are soooo lazy.

Granny nails it again with some of that Obama logic. If you think the Republicans are all liars, then there is no word to describe the great community organizer who has rarely told the truth about anything other than his intent to seize and redistribute wealth from anyone with earnings over $200K as well as ending family inheritance. Turn your business over to Mr. Lenin, er Obama, they can run it better anyway with some of the geniuses they've organized from the "community."

"I have said nothing defensive at all."---Granny

Face it. Biden was drunk.

Ahh arrogant is the word I was looking for. You're correct they both
exude arrogance.

for sure!!! why doesn't someone smack him?????

if you look up the word arrogant in the dictionary, there's a photo of RobMe and Lyin Ryan next to it. It's the platform of the right to be arrogant, that's what they live for, it makes their anuses pucker up with excitement because they think their underwear don't get brown....

I looked up "arrogant" and it linked me to barackobama.com. Nothing of this robme you speak of. Are you feeling okay?

I loved it, because Wide Eyed Ryan IS laughable. And his running mate, too.

Goodness Phil:

Your cigar is dwindling to a butt... Don't show it all please....

how could anybody do anything BUT laugh at a punk trying to pull off a bunch of lies. Notice how much water Lyin Ryan drank? THAT IS A BIOLOGICAL RESPONSE TO LYING. He knows he's lying, and he's LAUGHING ON THE INSIDE because he's got so many fools believing him !! poor unsuspecting fools.....
happy landings.

No,Robme is rude, Ryan is rude, and they are all liars on the right, that's why they cheat and steal elections because they can't win fair and square. It's been proven that the 2000 election was stolen, although too late to change anything. go ahead, vote for more bushonomics, see what that gets you, only this time it would be much, much worse. FASCIOCAPITALISM. You won't find it in the dictionary just yet, I only recently coined the term, but that's what the right is.

You're just mad because he's correct, and the right is wrong about everything. How 'bout the fact that Lyin Ryan didn't present one fact? Oh they PRETEND they are facts, but they know republican voters are too lazy to do any research, so they just keep practicing what the Fascists taught Germany: if you repeat a lie often enough, fools will believe it.

Ryan is worth being demeaned. When you lie you should not expect to be esteemed.

dumb? Reba, what do you know about anything? DUMB? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA POT AND KETTLE POT AND KETTLE heeheee

If I remember correctly, Georgie boy ran the country into the ground and it has actually surfaced during the last four years. When you destroy the economy the way the Bush administration did it takes more than four years to recover especially when the opposing party is doing everything it can to make the President fail. Reba, the dumb one is you because you probably do not know who Mitch Mcconnell is and what he stated the number one priority of the Republican Party was when Obama came into office.

I can point out a massive gum line. Obamacare doesn't cover that.

GA R - looking for a link to a website to explain how they are going to create 12 million jobs. You got one? Post it. Thanks.

http://www.mittromney.com/jobsplan

Thanks RB. Reading the info provided at that link and have to say I find it incredibly vague. I do not see how a number -- any number -- can be tossed out regarding job creation based on what is written. Any other links available that provide more detailed info on what they plan to do? Thanks.

How about floss?

Dear Precious Kathy:

So detailed minded you are... But alas you will not find details from any of the campaigns... What we do know is the record of the sitting First & Second Stooges and it ain't pretty! Talk about a pile of lies the past four years from a neophyte and ol' crusty fart. Rewind to his campaign promises from 2008 and compare them to current state. What do we find? A horrible economy still, staggering deficits on his watch and plenty of excuses...

Everybody says we need to bring manufacturing back to this country. Just saying you want to do it doesn't mean you can. I think it's already started to happen. What bothers me is that they say we need to reduce the size of government. Just how many people will that put out of work? How many government workers will, all of a sudden, be put on the the unemployment role?

Oh Dear Precious Prissy Mae, Are you suggesting asking for specific details about what Romney/Ryan plan to do should they acquire the White House is just a silly piece of information to seek or just that they don't have anything more than vague thoughts about what they think a bunch of other like minded folk want to hear them say they are going to do?

I find it absolutely hilarious so many keep pointing fingers at the past four years without any real understanding of all the years that happened prior to them that got us here. But of course, understanding Obama/Biden didn't put us in this situation all on their own but with a great deal of Bi-Partisan help doesn't fit into the all Democrats are sinister evil plotters from Hell that so many here want to see them as.

What I remember from the last election was the clamoring for more details, more details, more details on the fuzzy rhetoric of "Hope and Change". We didn't get any. Now we find ourselves in the same situation today with Romney/Ryan offering similar fuzzy promises -- including lots of flip flopping on answers solely dependent on who they are talking to -- without concrete information on HOW they are going to implement them.

I don't find either side impressive.

Kathy, it's what they NEVER say that proves they are liars. they always leave out THE REST OF THE SENTENCE. The part that says "for my cronies". etc. etc.

conspicuously devoid of complete sentences.....

the jobs they create are all in China, and that's where we'll all end up working for 22 cents an hour or nothing at all if the right gets their way. THEY CREATE JOBS IN CHINA, that's all.

Romney/Ryan explain it with trickle down economics. If we give the rich so much money, eventually some of it will get to the middle class. I have always been under the belief that it is people with money who buy things that cause jobs to be created. When the middle cash had money to spend the economy always prospered.

Republicans want us to believe that by giving tax breaks to the rich and large small businesses they will feel so flush that they will just go ahead and create jobs even if the demand for their products and services is not there. It's a case of which comes first the chicken or the egg. The middle class is the chicken and if you don't feed them they will not lay the golden eggs the economy needs. But then again I am a member of the middle class and what do we know.

It's cheaper to pay the penalty than to pay for the health care.

ummm, Phyllis, they already do that. Especially that nation-destroying bunch of pigs over at Walmart, most of whose employees have to be on food stamps since Sam Walton died and his greedy son and daughter took over exploiting the working poor. Ask your reps to let go of THEIR insurance WE PAY FOR and see how they respond. THEY CAN AFFORD TO BUY THEIR OWN, why should I BUY IT FOR THEM WHEN THEY DO NOTHING FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS BUT STEAL FROM THEM?? This began under REAGAN, and continues to this day.THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN as of Jan. 20 2009 Phyllis. This is the trend for over 30 years now, you can thank that republican god Reagan for that, and all the reagan era brats who are now greedy "adults" who hate the working class and have turned them into the working poor, INTENTIONALLY,and plan to do MUCH MUCH worse give the opportunity. don't vote against your own best interests, that qualifies for a diagnosis of insanity. self destructive disorder.

Cindy, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. When people don't listen to logic or reason (neither term exists in any right wing glossary), you have to make an IMPACT one way or another. It's called TOUGH LOVE, we practice it on our children just as God practices it on all his children. But the "Christian" right doesn't know God, not remotely. the Christian left understands Jesus' message. hypochristians and anti-christ-ians do not. They just lie and use the name of God to fool lots of people most of the time. I pray you have more wisdom than they.

I have never in my life seen some paint others with such a broad brush like Granny does. Thanks so much for telling me I don't know God and calling me a liar and I don't listen to reason or logic. Seems to me YOU are the one that needs to seek God before you go spouting off about other people. Just because someone doesn't agree with your very skewed opinion of the country doesn't mean we are liars or anti-Christian. It just means we have brains and we can actually think for ourselves and make our own opinions based on what we believe in. I have news for you, we all aren't the same (and thank God for that). I have close friends that do not share my political views but never would I tell them they are wrong or anti-Christian or liars.

Granny Tombstone sounds like she fell off her rocker. "the "Christian" right doesn't know God"
Damn! A liberal is now going to preach to everyone online. Someone please pass the plate.

The joke is on you "p", you don't get the joke, the joke that Lyin Ryan is, that's why you're not laughing too.

aw wassamatta eb, he's too HUMAN and down to earth for you? WE ON THE LEFT are poor widdle folks who are humble and truthful, shame on us for that.....snort.

"The moderator thinks she's a talk show host."---Tammy Osler

Biden doesn't let talk show hosts talk either; and I'm sure Raddatz knew it.

No Tammy, lying thieving rightists are rude and disrespectful, they hate you because you allow them to ream you without lubrication, and then you lick their boots and beg for the privilege, and even offer to pay them for the privilege. That is the objective of the right, there is no other objective. get over it.
do yourself a favor and see how used you are, and change that.

preferential treatment dab? oh because he can't allow a liar to keep lying without being challenged? Liars DESPISE being challenged, that is why they have to drink so much water, it makes their mouth dry when they lie.

I agree. It was obvious that she was supporting Biden but Ryan did a good job in handling her and Biden

she did nothing of the kind, and to that person who said she has a conflict of interest, omg the audacity of right wingers talking about conflicts of interest LOL. Their entire platform IS ALL ABOUT CONFLICT against the citizenry. people see what they want to see, because deep within, they WANT to be led by liars as long as they've been fooled into thinking it's in their own best interest. It isn't.
masochists, republican voters are all masochists, it's obvious.

"It was obvious that she was supporting Biden but Ryan did a good job in handling her and Biden,"

I don't think she was personally supporting Biden.

Biden really put her off when she had asked about the concern troops being left behind in Afghanistan were having---which, after stumbling badly, finally had Biden scolding her. She bore it looking down but did not like it.

Every time that she did interrupt Biden, I thought it would be to tell him to abide by the rules. She did not and instead changed the subject which is what she
said she would be doing when introducing the debate.

As it turned out: At every instance, at the expense of Ryan.

It a appears to me that the very venue of the debate, on ABC, was tailored to comply with demands already made by Obama and his campaign manager.

For example: in lieu of instructing Biden to abide by the rules, the moderator instead changing the subject (which Raddatz said she would be doing during her introduction of the debate) and the use of the split screen to highlight Biden and actually facilitate Biden's intrusions on Ryan;

Biden even had the gall to warn twice that he wanted as much time as Ryan had (been only alloted)---even "four minutes"---despite his having used at least three-quarters of Ryan's time, with his unmoderated intrusions, I thought Raddatz would object.

He was in effect demanding all the time.

I think Raddatz had already been constrained.

ABC is patently afraid of Obama. He's a bully.

ABC had even granted an interview to Obama, in place of the evening news, the evening prior to mend his lousy performance in his own debate and pave the way for Biden's upcoming appearance; but where he drilled the anchor's eyeball that he to warn that he was not going to respond to any further questions regarding the Libyan debacle, and all the murderous protests to follow, any more than he had as flagrantly inadequate---and even insulting---it was.

"...she has a conflict of interest, omg the audacity of right wingers talking about conflicts of interest LOL. ...

LOL. And not to know him is to dislike him?

The way he is with people he doesn't know should tell even you something.

The way he milked, instead of maintaining a stoic decorum, the history of his wife's fatal accident was not becoming at all.

The media, after all, was never de-humanizing him.

Quite the contrary.

You must be pretty desperate to attack Romney's relegion.

Hope you know Harry Reid is a Mormon

Darling Brandt:

Your Mommie told you to stay off the computer two hours before the debate because she knew how inept you would be if commenting!

I meet weekly with LDS missionaries who visit me. They can't stand RobMe.

Andrew, Brandt did not attack anybody's FAITH. Not religion, FAITH, they are two different things. His point was that RobMe is a poor representative of his faith. But that's the blind for you, seeing only what they prefer to see. Never learning how to read a sentence without reading into it THEIR OWN BIASES. I despise "religious" bigotry, that is, bigotry of all kinds, including bigotry against any faith. YOU RIGHTISTS HAVE SOME NERVE, considering you all hate every Muslim there is.
pot and kettle again....

Prissie Mae sure is an instigator!! never has an intelligent comment, only insults and provocation. She (or he?!) works for Karl Rove you know, they are paid to troll websites and spread their fascist lies. I call them out on it every time and they always vanish into the woodwork they crawled out of....

OMG Granny, what a hypocrite you are. Talk about pot and kettle. I've read all of your crappy comments and you do nothing but insult. POT / KETTLE.

"Run the country into the ground." You mean like Boy George and Dirty Dick did during their administration? And the rest of the Wrong Wingers of the Republican party who loosened restrictions on Wall Street which gave us the gift of the Great Recession. Who want Big Oil to stay on entitlements when it's making record profits. Who care not one whit about the air and water left to your children if it gets in the way of a buck. Who put up a bimbo from Alaska last time and a do nothing Congressman from Wisconsin (he has sponsored not one piece of meaningful legislation) this time. And who appointed an idiot from my district (a doctor who isn't board certified -- meaning he's subpar) by the name of Paul Broun to the Science, Space and Technology Committe who thinks the Evotutionary Theory and Embryology are "lies straight from the pit of hell." I guess he's subpar there, too. Yeah, I'll take Obama/Biden over the GOP buffoons any day.

"Biden is the best thing the Romney/Ryan ticket has going for them.Barack must be scratching and clawing his eyes out right now."---RB

No. Biden was right.

He'd didn't need to wear Obama's Big Bird costume too.

I couldn't believe Biden kept a straight face at the end when responding to the question regarding the demeaning political ads being put out.

no don Gabacho, this gabacha is telling you otherwise: Biden was left, and that's how it should be. The right is wrong and the left practice COMPASSION, which is the ONLY RULE IN CHRISTIANITY, which the right doesn't comprehend, period.

"...no don Gabacho, this gabacha is telling you otherwise: Biden was left, and that's how it should be. The right is wrong and the left practice COMPASSION, which is the ONLY RULE IN CHRISTIANITY, which the right doesn't comprehend, period."

How 'compassionate' of you to think so.

oh we have to attack the moderator? because we know we can't handle the truth? Raddatz did an excellent job. It's not about the moderator, it's about the truth, and rightists can't handle the truth, it scares them.
because their intentions are all wrong and downright unchristian and evil, period.
they want to use everybody for their own selfish purposes, and if they could tax our every breath they'd do that to, but pay no taxes themselves, and then steal the tax revenues we paid in. THAT'S THE FACTS, it's their ultimate agenda. If you don't believe it, ask yourself why it's the rightists who always steal our tax dollars to put into the pockets of their supporters. BECAUSE THEY THINK THE WORLD IS THEIR CASINO, their plantation, and theirs to exploit. They don't understand that Jesus said It's more BLESS-ED to give than to receive, because when you GIVE, you are receiving. TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN (AND IT'S ALL GIVEN, by the Lord and by the working class), MUCH IS REQUIRED. Rightists, pay your fair share and shut up about MODERATION, CONservatives don't know the meaning of the word or any of its various definitions.

That's exactly how I felt, Biden was pathetic!

No, you're and embarrassment Nancy,because all you do is spew comments that have no basis in fact. That's what happens when rightists are allowed to dumb down the citizenry, they can't relate to facts or SIMPLE LOGIC. their brains are wired differently, logic simply doesn't figure in. LOGIC IS THE KEY, take that key and put it into the lock and TURN IT for a change.

So is Any Republican trash bags

Lisa it's so ironic for the right to call others stoned.
They live under a rock, you know, as in a big giant boulder??
they can't get their heads out of the sand nor their own anuses.
stubborn, deluded fools, I pray for them all day every day, because I LOVE HUMANITY, THE PLANET, AND MY NATION.

Joe has his Go Joe working, and the republican "leadership" has never worked anything but the numbers game, ever. they are all gambling addicts but want US to pay for it.

Amen...a smirky, snarky old man....

"He is still smirking audibly and jabbering while Ryan speaks and, unspeakably, even giggles. I totally agree with all the posts that say Biden is totally UN-vice-presidential..."--eb

Biden had said he spoke with Israel's Prime Minister and Obama during a telephone call "for an hour."

Did he forget the call would have taken five minutes without him?

He must be a secret weapon.

How can world leaders, much less anyone else, tolerate his condescending, uncontrollable blabber and not either punch him out or surrender any issue?

I shudder to think him being a step away from the Presidency

I can see him being the US Ambassador to the UN though.

Eloise, I agree re the pipeline. Wish Ryan would have highlighted that.

The smirks,smiles laughing..."bunch of stuff", disrespectful and disagreeable...Just rude and at 69 Biden should know better...really made him look bad.

Eloise are you okay? You mean you didn't know those jobs will expire once it's built, other than basic maintenance? And btw, not ONE DROP of that oil is destined for the USA, IT'S ALREADY BEEN SOLD TO OTHER NATIONS. Do your homework woman, and wake up,OIL IS PASSE except for limited uses, get your mind out of the oil barrel and realize that alternatives cannot only make energy affordable, BUT PROFIT OUR NATION and eliminate income tax altogether if done INTELLIGENTLY. I have the plan all worked out, but nobody listens to me, because I'm a humble grandmother who likes facts and has creative solutions, something the right despises. they only understand EXPLOITATION of the planet and everything/everyone (including you) on the planet. wake up dear, I'm praying for you.

That cranky old man just wiped the floor with Ryan.

I'm thinkin' he looked pretty happy..,lotsa teeth.

tom, you say he's cranky, others say he laughs too much. odd that. you rightists contradict yourselves every time you open your mouths. sad,that.

Weed does that to people : ) : ) I : ) think we should
: ) make weed : )
: ) more legal : )
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"I like Joe Biden.He usually seems like the happiest person on earth."---Pam J

You must have seen him only when he's chairing a committee.

And only he is allowed to talk.

Lyin Ryan was waterlogged, Roger, and that's because when lying the mouth gets dry.

And Congressman munster was right there in the 'leadership' of the House.

"So much talk about Congress working together and for the past 3 years..."---PublicEye Report

Didn't Biden demonstrate the utter futility of even talking together?

Should we also remember that the Senate is led by Reid, notorious for his extreme partisan actions overseen by a bumbling Biden as Senate President. He presides over the Senate, votes when a tie occurs and uses his overbearing nature to run his closed door strong arming tactics...

Jeff Dunham’s Walter:
Joe Biden’s "Brother from a different mother".

View of teeth used to confirm who’s who.
You should see the brouhaha when a luggage packing error occurs…

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Reg,
And what has that 'independent' status gained you?

"And what has that 'independent' status gained you?"---Eddie E.

Surely you are not referring to another "litmus test"?

My dear Edvard:

That is none of your business!

You know what that tells me Reg? you're a lousy business manager. Taking too much off the top and letting your WORKING POOR EMPLOYEES suffer so you can have more than you are ENTITLED too. talk about the entitlement mentality. I see no evidence of independent politics in your comment. It smacks of "it's all about me". I have voted across the spectrum and am neither a dem nor a repub. I vote based on facts and truth. I am sorry for your losses, maybe you learned something. And you're lying anyway because Obamacare's mandate for health insurance hasn't even gone into effect just yet. CAUGHT YA!!

Just when I think your comments can't get anymore heinous you now call someone a lousy business manager. You are so inappropriate it's not even funny.

REPUBLICAN'Ts- zero
TRUTH - ding ding ding!!!

Rob, if he were as low as Lyin Ryan, he would have taken a link all over the liar. Instead, he exercised warmth and humanity, and was kind enough to laugh at the lies instead of smacking the liar upside the head to knock some sense into his brain. No, instead, Joe handed Lyin Ryan his arse. and way to gently at that.

Missed this post - Interesting that the Dunwoody spammer responds all all hours of the day or night, weekends as well. Unemployed - figures!

RB:

Thanks for presenting the facts... It will get worse as the "hidden" and unknown stuff of Yomammacare plays out over the next three years... Perhaps those parts can be overturned because they will place a huge burden on the middle class.

No, it has NOTHING to do with the white house, it has everything RB to do with idiots who vote for gamblers and exploiters who SCRATCH THE BALLS of the insurance companies who have no right to exist in the first place,because health care IS NOT A CASINO for shareholders. Get the exploitation mentality out of your mind and it will become clear to you. ALL THAT MONEY SHAREHOLDERS AND CEOs steal from health care is what raises your insurance premiums, HOW CAN YOU NOT GRASP THAT???

Phil,
Just keep thinking that.
Will you be your 'normal', identifiable self for the Mayoral Debate next week?

Mr. Eddie just puked on himself! He knows Libya stories were a coverup. He likes to eat too many red herrings while smoking cigars.

"It was like Biden was not keeping up with current events while he was in Debate prep."---Phil

Though more so, neither did Ryan.

The murdering, and obvious, terrorists---not or ever "protestors" (as the embassy's own security cameras recorded)---had crossed over from Egypt.

The embassy asked for added security three times.

But, like Obama, Hillary apologized for "The Movie" and its inciting murderous "protestors."

Like I posted to the Patch on Day One: "Where were the 'marines'"?

"Mr. Eddie just puked on himself! He knows Libya stories were a coverup. He likes to eat too many red herrings while smoking cigars."---Prissy Mae

Trying to capitalize on Obama's---at best---malfeasance?

When the Pub 71 gang should be disowned by any political party?

WHAT Phil you can't handle the truth? doesn't matter how the truth is presented, too down to earth and honest for you? any lying exploitationist can put up a false front, you like that dishonesty? you poor dear.

apparently don Gabacho, you prefer NOT APOLOGIZING? yOU therefore APPROVE of "the movie" ?? Oh so then if shoe were on other foot, you'd be PERFECTLY OKAY if nobody apologized to us for a similar infraction? HYPOCRITE!!!!
THE RULES WORK BOTH WAYS PEOPLE. You get what you give.

apparently don Gabacho, you prefer NOT APOLOGIZING? yOU therefore APPROVE of "the movie" ??---Granny

What?

What in the world are you talking about?

I "approve of The Movie"?

You must be taking smack in the temple.

Nice generalized attack on Ryan without any proof to back it up.

Oh sweet Andi:

Have you picked out your Halloween costume yet? You could go 1/2 & 1/2... Joe & Barak!

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you tell 'em Andi

The only thing Biden did is come off as an arrogant buffoon. He would have won on the Jerry Springer show though...

I forgot, they do let wrong-wing morons vote.

It doesn't matter, the Vice President was still the clear Victor.

My goodness Edvard:

You're 57... How wonderful that your Grandmother is still alive. You speak like a true leftist... Lies, lies, lies!

Clear victor? Not according to the left leaning CNN :-)

"Forty-eight percent of voters who watched the vice presidential debate think that Rep. Paul Ryan won the showdown, according to a CNN/ORC International nationwide poll conducted right after Thursday night's faceoff. Forty-four percent say that Vice President Joe Biden was victorious. "

"Half of all debate watchers questioned in the poll said the showdown didn't make them more likely to vote for either of the candidates' bosses, 28% said the debate made them more likely to vote for Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and 21% said the faceoff made them more likely to vote to re-elect President Barack Obama."

your grandmother has the advantage of wisdom Eddie.

Perhaps my dear don... But probably even worse...

"Perhaps my dear don... But probably even worse..."---Prissy Mae

Yes.

He could then have been invited to Pub 71 for an unanticipated extracurricular event.

Bejuco anybody?

What class was it 'lyin ryan' exibited?
Would that be 'no class'?

Also as a Republican small business owner, I'm far better off now than in 2008. Housing has started to get better and my 401k has almost recovered those losses. I may not like Obamas policies in full, but Romneys vision downright scares me. The country needed Ron Paul and now we've been reduced to picking the lesser of two evils. I see Obama as that choice. And yes, that's sad it had to come to that.

Phil,
This would be another situation where you are, well, how can I clearly and honestly state it....oh, yeah WRONG.

But please, wear the Daisy Dukes and the super dark glasses to the debate next week.

Edvard:

Please leave the "cigars" alone! How well you cover up the Libya coverup! The facts are against you on this one! Google and you'll view extremely credible sources!

We were watching the same spectacle, and I wondered the same things.

You have a point...but only TO a point. Don't focus on the past, we have real problems NOW. Regardless of what was "inherited", what about all the unfulfilled promises made by Obama?? Isn't that the true question??
There were Democrats in Congress when all that supposed "screwing up" occured...and, with a FULLY Democratic Congress during the first 2 years of Obama's term, NOTHING got fixed...and why not?? Yes, it takes time to fix things...but nothing was really done. A budget has not been passed for years...what it up with that??? Please don't vote party...vote for the future.

"I have really listened to both candidates and their views..."---Yvonne Ward

How? Well over two-thirds of the debate was Biden interrupting, talking over and even talking simultaneously with Ryan making much of what Ryan was saying inaudible.

You do know the meaning of "lie"?

Don't you?

Yvonne:

Child please! Even Bill Clinton admits things were going awry due to Dem policies while he was in office. Please become more informed!

No one has mentioned "water" gate -- lyin Ryan's mouth was so dry, we went through his daily H2O regiment in 90 minutes! Besides, not giving specifics about anything, his seriousness is the same thing Obama was accused of in the Presidential debate. Oh, I forgot...if the Republican's do it, it's okay...

What specifics did Congressman munster suggest he would provide to solve the persistent problems from the 'bush depression'?

Dismissive?
What did lyin ryan say or do that would have elicited anything other than a slap in the face?

"BUT, Biden's out and out lie about the request for more security re the recent 9/11/12 embassy attack was flatly outrageous.---eb

That and Biden's attempt to shift the concern of the troops being left behind in Afghanistan (while troops are being pulled out) to be " always some complainers"---to, somehow, even "joint chiefs."

But, being "responsible, Biden must be among the 57% who only "care."

Him and Big Bird.

Did ryan speak anything truthful during the entire exchange?

Can you prove it?

Eddie you are the one accusing so it is your burden to prove it. Innocent until proven guilty.

Biden interrupted Ryan 82 times. Raddatz is a joke.

Pam J. Since when were you nominated to decide what is hate and what is a difference in opinion? You sound like someone who has been out of touch.. I mean out of work for a while.

Fine
Enlighten me as to what ryan said that came within 100 miles of the truth?

Tell us Dear Edvard how you measure truth? And, what does truth look like within 100 miles? We all know what truth has looked like at 1600 PA Ave DC these past almost four years!!!

"Biden came off as a bad car salesman."

:-) 'Trust me'!

Gah. At that point Biden reminded me of the Mayor who running for reelection in the old Mary Hartman show.

Mary Lou,
It's not the 'day the Democrats took over' as the talking points want you to focus on, it's the 8 years of constant downturn, 800,000 jobs lost each month, constant restrictions of Freedom to counter for the shrub administration's inability to protect the American People and the Clear, Simple and Obvious fact that it has ALL gotten better since January of 2009.

Can you count?

Let's talk about 'fallacy'.
There was only a '60 Senator Majority' for 3 months thanks to the fact that norm coleman would not accept defeat.
It doesn't matter how loudly or how often you parrot the lie (do you get a stipend?), the 'super majority' was never real.

Oh Edvard:

800,000 jobs per month! LOL!

Eddie is lying. The Democrats had a 60-vote supermajority in the Senate from 2008 until Ted Kennedy’s death in August 2009 and the subsequent Republican victory in a 2010 special election.

But Biden didn't do what romney did.
Biden told the truth.
romney lied for 90 minutes.

Totally agree on those points Diana.

I also agree with you Diana regarding a woman's choice. My belief is that life begins at conception. It's factually true but when it comes to a woman's body, it is just that. HER BODY. As a man, I don't feel comfortable telling a woman or any other person what they can or can not do with their own body.

Biden was caught lying within minutes of the debate. When asked why the Obama Administration insisted that the attacks in Libya, resulting in the deaths of four Americans including our Ambassador Chris Stevens, was the result of a film that angered Muslims when it was clearly defined as a terrorist attack to celebrate the anniversary of 9/11, Biden said that the Intelligence Committee gave him that information. They absolutely did not.

"Rommey still wanting to leave troups in Afghanistan,..."---DT

What? Ryan, when he was only very eventually able to get it out despite Biden deliberately bullying the so-called debate, said that they agreed with the pullout minus announcing its date, and would only have or put 'boots on the ground' in defense of our national interest.

wouldn't give a straight answer as to putting troups in Syria. I am sick of war. 'Ladies, Rommey and Ryan still wanting to control what you do with your body.'

While Obama and Biden want even those who regard it against their religion to pay for it!

Biden's response to the issue posed was a "lie."

His saying that "It is a fact' that they 'are not forcing the hosipitals of the Catholic Church to issue contraceptives was a deliberate and deceitful deflection from their forcing Catholics to pay for abortions. In other words: "a lie."

Biden did the same when shifting the concern of 'boots on the ground' being left behind for being exposed to more danger to the 'joint chiefs of staffs."

"Weither you are anti abortion or pro choice, no one should have the right to control your future because of their personal beliefs.'

Unless the controllers are Feds and you are anti-abortion...

...'You should always have a choice so you can live with your own decision.''

Not on anyone else's dime!

'God gave us free will..."

Which includes the 'free will" to be responsible for your own decisions.

"...no man should be able to take that away.."

Or woman.

Certainly no one has to pay for another's decision based on the other's "personal beliefs."

so there is no laws for a women in the usa yes man does make laws

How much do you get paid to regurgitate this pablum?

Amen. Enough said.

In what state?

For you my dear Edvard... The state of DISCONTENT! May you reside there always!

Ryan periodic smirks were in response to Biden's totally disrespectful behavior!

Dear EGE
You must have watched the debate on an old standup Zenith radio if you think that Paul Ryan had a continous smirk on his face the entire evening. He had a quiet, confident smile on his face since he knew that Laughing Gassed Joe Biden was losing his grip, if he had any, as the debate went into the 2nd half. Paul Ryan had a 12 point lead at the end of the 1st half because he scored a TD, then kicked a long field goal for 3 points and finally he slammed a "fox eating briars" grinning Joe Biden down in the end zone for a safety for the final 2 points of the half.

Speechless in Midtown
Since you are concerned about Gabe from the 'The Office' being our next Vice President, please tell me that you are too young to vote. I'll rest easier at night knowing that. :-)

"BTW - did anyone else catch Biden's slip? That the real hidden reason they want all the troops to come home, is because they aren't paying taxes while they are away?---Vickie

Yes. I did. Biden was trying to press the "49%" button.

"Slip"?

No. He "cares."

Right?

Eb, you may be surprised to know that Eddie is the Political Director for the Sierra Club of Ga. Guess who he is endorsing?

I don't think his commentary is a very positive reflection on their organization, but they elected him.

AND he gets to hand out endorsements to his personal favorites. Must be a fun gig.

EB:

Check Eddie E.'s comment history... I researched it two weeks ago... Quite revealing to say the least! He is a leftist and promotes those causes without regard to reality.

My dear Uranus:

Your planet is no longer recognized! FYI, even CNN poll indicated Ryan at 48% and Bufuiden at 44%. And how wonderful a Biden Presidency would be? More hilarious than Puko Chavez!

ABC is reporting Obama saying that Biden's performance was "terrific."

Obama thought he won the debate with Romney too! Proves how delusional he is.

I forgot to add....they want to push back women's reproductive rights and choices to the dark ages. I honestly believe they want white women to owned, kept and pregnant as an intentional strategy to try and turn the tide of the racial and ethnic demographic shift occurring in our country. Sick, fat, Christian, Bircher, male zealots. This is a party that care about the unborn, but heartless enough not to vote and support the Dream Act.

Talk, without facts, is cheap. It was Biden who was caught lying about Libya.

Are you that desperate that you have to attack someone's religion? You do know that the Senate Democrat leader, Harry Reid, is Mormon don't you?

Unit is lying again. Most people don't care what a woman does with her "reproductive rights and choices" just as long as she pays for it rather than try to leech it from the taxpayers.

Illegal aliens are illegal which means they don't belong here. If they want to live here they need to do it legally and pay taxes.

Not really? You are full of it as you were attacking Romney for his religion you loser. I accept the right of people to follow whatever religion they want and that includes not following a religion or being an atheist.

Get a grip and stop your propaganda. Why do you think church and state is separated by the constitution?

How sad this all we care about. In the future, may I suggest you listen on a radio so we don't debate whose suit had less wrinkles too...

*** Meant to say, opinions are like noses, everyone has on and they ARE different....

Thank you Jones for a good, actual adult comment on this board. Based on 99% of the comments on here, I would not even want to admit to living in Atlanta.

@David...your bible verses do nothing for me...I'm an old testement guy.....

But back to the facts...eliminating the home mortgage interest deduction per Romney's plans would not just kill the housing market, it would send it into oblivion. Not what anyone on either side wants. The Drastic spending cuts that you propose would also send the economy into a freefall. You think unemployment is high now? Try twice as many unemployed.

I'm all for tax cuts that are covered by spending cuts for the middle class, those making under $250,000 of AGI, but to continue these ridiculously low tax rates for the rich is just bufoonery. By the way, I agree with cutting foreign aid, except in extremely small cases, these countries can live without U.S. taxpayer dollars.

"If anyone wants to complain that Ryan was overrun by Biden, and that Joe interupted little Pauly Ryan too much, I suggest you watch last weeks debate where Romney was so disrespectful of the Office of the President of the United State it appalled me."

Nonsense. Romney rightly claimed his time that Obama tried to appropriate for himself at the beginning of the debate while Leher was allowing it.

It was not "bullying."

It is standing up for yourself in the face of a bully no matter how subtle the bullying.

If Romney didn't he could not be President.

As a matter of fact, because Obama didn't get away with it, he lost the debate.

It was the only advantage Obama could conceive of to press and hopefully win the debate.

Similarly, it must be why Biden, not subtle at all, and instead maniacally, over-compensated in his debate to the extent that he did.

It didn't work. Also why Obama and his backers are resorting, in their commercials and stumping, not to the issues but, instead, sheer ridicule no matter how fabricated the supposed causes for ridicule.

I hate to even think about the part of the electorate who is impressed with it.

@steve...Your main stream media complaints are the same old stories we read all the time from conservatives. I hardly think Obama was given a pass on his debate performance last week. Either way, your insults without facts just prove that your case is weak.

"I hardly think Obama was given a pass on his debate performance last week."

By the talking heads?

They certainly did following the debate.

They only somewhat change their tune when they saw the polls numbers afterwards.

They have even been excusing Biden as beneficially "emotional."

Amen brother!

Mike Steele

"Joe just being Joe" is "only a heartbeat away" from becoming president. That's a frightening concept to seriously consider.

I know I prefer "The View" over bomb cartoonist Bibi. That man is itching to start WWIII any day with our boys, not his.

Right Milton. You have the world issues all figured out. Your comments are easily made in your parent's basement with your security blanket behind a keyboard. How do you think this nation earned your freedom? It's wasn't a lottery drawing. Grow up!

If that happens, there will be no work. I guess the good news is I could be part of that increasing number of people on food stamps by which this presidency rates itself so well.

Back to work? That's what 23,000,000 Americans have been wanting to do for four years now. If your choice of ruler is elected a second term, just watch the disability and welfare claims skyrocket. Americans with work ethic will have no choice but to give up and live on the dole.

Mike, you're seriously worried about "food stamps" vs NDAA and trillions into the "defense" of our country, which everyday produces more and more true enemies? Boy do we have priorities mixed up...

One more time for the mentally challenged. "September 11, 2001". Americans are hated by a large portion of the Muslim world. I didn't create this hate and I'm sure as hell not afraid of anyone. I do however believe in being prepared and I do feel that my family is better protected with a strong Military.

I'm sure that is still over your head there "E" but it's not my responsibility to hold your hand. Educate yourself.

Well, C.J. maybe you should pick up the bill for future medicare recipients seeing how our government has screwed the system and there will be no money to pay for their benefits. Our government spends 10,000,000,000 everyday and borrows 4,000,000,000 of that 10. Uh... what is Obama promising to do about the borrowing problem and how is it again that he will fix the Medicare and Social Security problems?

Re: "...there will be no money to pay for their benefits."

Assuming, Scott, that you're over 55, why do we have money for your benefits, but not for their benefits? If the goal is to extend the life of Medicare, why not privatize it now? After all, the sooner we start, the more money we'll save.

Again, the idea that somebody else should sacrifice benefits to save money that could be saved starting today sounds like a plan from Ayn Rand's "The Virtue of Selfishness." It's okay for thee, but not for me?

In fact, there are two ways to extend the life of Medicare. The Romney/Ryan plan is to cut benefits. The other approach is to reduce the cost of Medicare without cutting benefits. For example, we could allow Medicare to negotiate prescription drug prices (as Biden suggested last night) and allow people under the age of 65 to buy into Medicare so that it collects premiums from younger, healthier people.

Finally! someone said it...I've been saying this all along, this is exactly what we need! I would be in favor of removing caps on Payroll Taxes all together, that would make the entire system solvent.

David,
By the time the 'new money' was used to replenish the money already robbed from the 'trust funds' (truly an oxymoron in this case) to pay the bills while the fantasy tax cuts never seemed to generate the huge increase in economic activity that was predicted, there wouldn't be any extra to spend.

Without our wealth, hard work, expertise and tax payments, you lame-o conserrrrrrrvatives would starve to death in the dark.

How big of a container are we talking about? 40'? Can we use a hydraulic press like in a trash compactor? If so? Hundreds. We're still going to need a lot of these containers.

Why waste a perfectly good container?

Frank, they all believe that privatization is the answer. But you are so completely right, all their money would be gone because of the recession and none of them realize it.

When it comes to FICA I'm all for removing caps and subjecting all income to FICA, but again, that's too easy, you can't tempt conservatives with logic because they don't understand. They just see the bottom line.

The real truth is we don't have a spending problem in this nation, we have a revenue issue.

David,
But we are talking about income required by those who are no longer working and need to pay for life's necessities.
Gambling is not necessarily the best option.

I'm so shocked that you believe Ryan won. Especially because all us Democrats are from the jungle and all conservatives are in church.....If you want to know about trash go to rural Georgia...all you methhead friends are Republicans.....

John Steele...You and the self-righteous Republican folks are as guilty as anyone for bad behavior. Here are some examples:

1) Rush Limbaugh - Called Ms. Fluke a "slut" and a "prostitute"...Not very Christian thing to say!
2) Romney - Essentially called 47% of Americans lazy bums who feel entitled to government benefits. Kind of an arogant, elitist position. Also not very compassionate in the teachings of Christ!
3) Ryan - Claims that 70% of Americans are "takers" who don't contribute to America. Again, a very belittling comment that discounts the efforts that those 70% contribute to America like serving in the military, police & fire station, garbage companies, nursing homes, etc. Arrogance, unbecoming of a Christian.
4) Mike Turzai - Claimed that the voter ID law passed by the PA legislature would help deliver the state for Mitt Romney in November. Talk about voter suppression and anti-Constitution behavior!
5) Romney/Ryan - They lie when they state they can cut rates by 20%, keeping tax revenues level and reducing the deficit & debt. It is mathematically IMPOSSIBLE.

When Republicans don't get their way...they obstruct Congress, hold America hostage, alienate our allies, tell outright lies (but they're good at polishing the turds to hide the lie) and insult the very people their supposed to be leading & inspiring.

Frank,
I guess after 3 decades of unchallenged dishonesty and complete crassness, they are shocked to have it reflected back at them.
I think Americans might finally be awakening to the obvious fact that if 'supply side' worked, there has been plenty of time for it to take hold.

".. injuring and killing people and generally conducting themselves like trash. You don't see Republicans and conservatives acting that way...."

i do.

My point exactly. The Democrats lie when the truth fits and wouldn't recognize the truth, if it hit them in the caboos with a bass fiddle.

So far I've seen many accusations about Ryan's lies, but not one specific example. Show me one clear and undisputed Ryan lie and maybe, just maybe, it may offset Biden's lies about Bengazi. Back it up, Darlin'. M.

Of course, he could take a stab at being honest and say 'that is none of my business as I am not capable of becoming pregnant'.

"Of course, he could take a stab at being honest and say 'that is none of my business as I am not capable of becoming pregnant'"

Fathers and fatherhood has rights too.

EPU

#5 Gets local. Let's not forget who is the National Voter Suppression Chair for ALEC!

@ E

So you actually believe the text you ;listed above? GREAT! Take a minute or 2 and see these NON Fox sources and tell us THESE are the new Republicans OK?

Disclaimer .... Audio may not be completely work safe here in all cases.

Black Panthers at polling station
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU

Philadelphia Voter POLL Watcher Intimidation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-HK_VT81Pk&feature=related

CNN-Philly Man says he is voted a couple of times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZwng4omanI&feature=related

Black Panther Threatens Student Activist for Passing Out Constitutions and then provides his own constitutional perspectives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj-mSBipPqQ&feature=related

New Black Panthers rally in Washington DC against Obama - 2011
http://aareports.com/2011/04/new-black-panthers-rally-in-washington.html

Here are several personal observations.

"1. A convergence of birthers, Birchers, white supremacists, misogynists, homophobics, Islamphobics, and Christian idealogues have hyjacked the RP."

Not to say the Repugs are any less motley than the Dems, but your terms, as they are designed to, misguide and demean.

"2. How can anyone associate with a political demographic group that believes Fox News is a credible news source, including other right-wing media "G-ds" like Rush, Glen, Boortz, Cain, etc."

How can anyone, or political demographic, associate with any current-day news source as credible? The media has long been hijacked no matter superficial differences carefully cast.

"3. How can anyone associate with a party whose supporters believe our President is not a U.S. Citizen, is a Muslim,..."

How can anyone not believe that Obama refused to produce his birth certificate---falsified or authentic---which the Public Trust bound him to do, to not test the Public's---and media's--- commitment to its preserving, or not, the very obligations of Public Office Holders to the Public Trust itself?

While baiting extremists to use their arguments to condemn all opponents---all dissent---and even blind his own supporters to what was, and remains, truly at stake?

Obama must be that special. To personably be so above the obligations of Public Office by the Public Trust.

To test his being so special to be exempt from the obligations of mere Ordinary Public Office Holders?

4. The RP is doing everything it can to overturn Roe vs Wade. Women reproductive choices will be taken away.

None sense. What would happen is abortion in only certain cases and, even at that, not at the expense of everyone.

"5. The RP is intentionally trying to restrict and intimidate folks from voting..."

Baloney: The RP, as is the DP, is using the issue to hide the fact of both parties providing still untold numbers of our voter registration forms to a foreign power long stateside.

"6. The RP will continue to try N eliminate the separation of church/state."

Once, and if, in the WH that hulabaloo will subside just as the Dems making it criminal for public office holders not being Godless.

"7. The RP will have us in ANOTHER war."

While peace is always preferred, it must be a given that the US turn its back altogether on even little girls being shot in their heads for wanting an education.

It must be the "compassionate" thing to do. No?

"8. The RP will roll back regulatory governance in order to ensure higher levels of corporate greed and corruption."

While the Dems want to ensure higher levels of political greed and corruption.

"9. There is a generation disconnect with young adults within the RP."

They did turn their backs on Ron Paul's youthful supporters for Ryan's. They are after-all Repugs and not Libertarians.

"This is the most praised, pampered generation ever. A generation willing to give up personal relationships before their technology. The white men within the party are high maintenance resulting from entitlement. Whatever is going on, if there is not an immediate benefit to them personally, screw everyone else. Screw the common good. False sense of importance and achievement. Clueless and don't even know it.."

Baloney. As it is, it works both ways.

There is a solution however---a non-partisan solution at that.

Containing MxCty to MxCty.

And that is for both parties to commit themselves now to even the sovereignty of our own elections.

Or is does your mere political affiliation prohibit even that?

1. This is nothing but propaganda that is nothing but pure hype from the Obama administration. With the recent polls it shows that your regular middle-class American supports the GOP. Obama was never vetted to the extreme in the 2008 election and he is now paying the price for that as we have finally found out what he is all about.

2. How can anyone associate with a political demographic group that believes MSNBC is a creditable news source?

3. By Muslim law if you are born to a Muslim father you are Muslim. Why does Obama have Muslim writing on the ring he wears?

4. Roe vs. Wade will not be overturned.

5. Voter ID is prudent to prevent voter law. After Georgia enacted a voter ID law minorities voting INCREASED. You need an ID to cash a check, drive, write a check and etc... What is wrong with having an ID to vote?

6. The Constitution guarantees separation of the church and state.

7. Iran is getting nukes soon. Whoever wins the election will have to deal with it.

8.Rolling back government is cost effective. We are broke and we must tighten the belt.

9. Think real hard and tell us who thinks that they deserve entitlement.

We're ALL lucky there's a secret bunker to keep him in between public visits...

Personal responsibility demonstrated as self control ...

Yes right up there with "OH Yes we can!"

Why did you get an Iphone? That money should been sent into the Federal government ...

Actually, yes, it was a lie. California statistics were left out, and the Obama administration refuses to acknowledge the 7% plus that has dropped out of the job seeker market. But that's OK, why worry! Recession? What recession? Everyone's hiring! Pass the bong!

@ Lee lets see how the employment numbers are REVISED and in what direction in Nov. OK?

The far majority are OK with contraception if you don't mooch off of taxpayers to pay for it. Pay for it yourself rather than digging in the taxpayer's pocket

"debating politics on the Patch!!! That's something i don't want to do"

Couldn't help yourself Eric? All politicians lie. Get over it.

Ha! you got me! good one.

The economy has not recovered. Are you supporting the largest tax increase in recent history at this time?

Comparing or attempting to equate pro-life positions to capital punishment is simply ridiculous.

Capital punishment. You do the crime you do the time.

War. Shall we sit down and ignore Iran getting nukes?

Nuclear Weaponry. Yeah lets pretend numerous other countries don't have nukes and Iran will not be getting them soon.

Planned parenthood. If you screw around YOU pay for it, not the taxpayers.

Fools? If the name fits wear it...

Oh well if it's razmunchken, you must follow the 'rule' (subtract 3 points from the leader they show and add three to the opponent).
Ohio will stabilize by Monday.

In any case, Obama-Biden 2012!

The libtards are going into denial.

Gosh Charles, thanks for adding such a valuable post to the conversation.

Dear Johnny someone has to come down to the republicans mentality which is based on their pocketbooks and nest eggs, I would not urinate on a republican because my urine deserves better.

Obama is finished. LOL!!!

Dear E-P-U:

I have to agree with you regarding Akin. He's a perverted, back-woods idiot. Anyone, who would require his wife or daughter to bear the child of rape or incest or risk the health and life of his female loved ones, is a grotesque animal and deserves to burn in hell. I am a conservative Republican and a Christian, but such neanderthal thinking is disgustingly bacwards, sick and perverted.

I can’t stand Claire McCaskill. She is a radical, Left Wing Marxist, but at least she understands the hideous narrow-mindedness of Akin’s ilk, regarding Rape, Incest and risk to a mother’s health. If you have ever had a loved one, who has been raped, you would understand the horror she experiences, when told she is pregnant from that rape. BTW, incest is rape too, especially with a minor. If the rape victim wants the child, that is her choice, but she is under no legal or moral obligation to bear the child of such malevolent evil. My vocabulary fails me in describing such repulsive depravity imposed on a loved-one in the name of God..

Respectfully,
Mike Steele
Midway, Georgia

@E
Not sure what "connection" you're driving at here, but considering your demonstrated expert status relating to denial, avoidance and rationalization, I'll take your charges under advisement.

This does not change the fact that Obamcare is imposing a 3.8 percent tax on investment profits and other non-wage income starting in 2013.

Why does Obama lie and say he did not raise taxes?

Rob,
signs do not win elections

"Schwabble" - Seriously,??? Getting desperate for new spammer names are we?

rob,
There are too many former dixicrat-now-republican-thug voters in this state for it to end up in the Obama Victory Margin.
We were written off long ago, along with paul broun's (the dimmest bulb in Congress) district.
No matter, I'm sure the President will provide us the aid we need to pull above 50th in ethics and 49th in education during the second term.

Georgia is 27th in education and there is no state ranking in ethics with the exception of Center for Public Integrity which is a George Soros funded leftist organization.

http://www.alec.org/publications/report-card-on-american-education/

Look at the web page for Center of Public Integrity. Obvious attack organization against the GOP.

http://www.publicintegrity.org/

Do you ever tell the truth?

Same old spam..same old spammer......

Isn't that the typical libtard thing Rob. You get a few of them and they create a big ruckus to try to fool others into thinking that their number is high.

Romney by a landslide!

"Blawat" - One of your new spam names?

Robert S- Well said. The Far Left and Far Right are only petty pawns who play into the will of those in our country who want to keep us ALL distracted from the real issue, Government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYGsadcBiFA

Romney has earned my vote as Obama is a liar who has put our country on the brink of ruin with his spending and policies.

Andrew,
Did you live here from 2001-2009?
I believe a little, tiny bit of research will confirm to anyone with two firing brain cells that the aforementioned period is when the 'brink of ruin' occurred.
Everything since then is recovery.

Eddie if you had more than one working brain cell you would realize that on November of 2007 we had 3,621,000 more people employed than on September of 2012. The population increases which means the amount of jobs need to increase. This has not happened.

January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress.

At the time:
The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The Unemployment rate was 4.6%

George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION.

January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?
BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

McCain and Bush pushed a Senate Bill to reign in the amount of risk Fannie and Freddie were undertaking. Barney Frank and Maxine Waters accused them of being racists and not wanting poor people to own a home, They decided home ownership was a new American "right", just like health insurance. The housing meltdown did start this mess, and Dodd and Frank were responsible for it.

Joe Biden was on acid. : ) : ) : ) : )

We have one debate where the President won't Look Up and another debate where the Vice President won't Shut Up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xa16wBG9J78

Kind of amusing to see you wasted the time to actually find the few articles that say Biden won. LOL!!

David,
we are equally about to puke over extreme right morons or" bucketheads"

"cyber-bully on this site"

You have got to be kidding. You clearly don't know what that means.

EPU,
I think the mis-spelling might have a Latin root that translates to 'redneck'.

Probably not too likely D2...if you read EPU's post, in his haste to call Republicans hateful he uses such loving and respectful terms as extreme, uninformed and heartless...and he also tries to call them ethical and moral infants, but in a brilliant display of his own astounding ignorance, he cant even spell check his insult....

I find your compassion good, but the right will not listen because of their one sided upbringing.

Is this the same Ann Coulter book in which she tell the reader how black people feel about various issues? Because she's really a black person? Oh, wait....she's a white person, right? Takes a lot of...what? gumption? chutzpah? inflated ego? to do that.

Rebecca? When did you finish the Ann Coulter book? Or did you just watch the pigs on The View and come up with your spew after that? Ann Coulter doesn't pretend to be black in her book. VERY WEAK!

When Obama has been questioned about his "one term proposition" comment, he has since said it will take another four years and maybe another President. So.. uh.. he personally killed bin Laden and he ruined the best healthcare in the world. So what highlights should we look forward to during his last term?

We know he wants to sit down with terrorist dictators in the little countries like Iran. We know he wants to close Guantanamo Bay and give the terrorist even more rights than he has given illegal Mexicans. I'm sure the future of America is going to be just fine with Barry at the helm and Rebecca at the Patch.

“This isn’t a story about black people—it’s a story about the Left’s agenda to patronize blacks and lie to everyone else.”

Exactly. It sounds as if we are seeing comments from a closed minded Whoopi Goldberg worshiper. I have the book on audio. Coulter isn't trying to play the role of a black, yet trying to wake up the public with facts regarding the democrat party and how they hold blacks back. What has Da Rev. Jackass ever done for blacks?

GOOD GOD! How hard is it to see the damage in the poor part of the country? You teach someone to fish. You don't pay for their fish, cook it for them, serve it to them in bed while they talk on their FREE cellphone.

Look at Chicago. Chicago has got DEMOCRAP written all over it. What a failure due to rediculous policies that even the gangs kids know are result in failure.

Andrew,

Step away from your AM radio.
You apparently know absolutely nothing about the 'LEFT' which you so absently disparage.

Eddie after 50 years of socialism, Castro finally admits the Cuban socialist/communist system does NOT work. Even with financial support from Russia and China.

But look at what he has done to the Cuban people. They are living in abject poverty. He has destroyed any entrepreneurial spirit they may have had over the last 50 years.

Russian socialism didn't work either. And China is forging ahead at a frightening pace with capitalism.

HOW MUCH PROOF DO YOU LEFTISTS / LIBERALS / SOCIALISTS / COMMUNISTS NEED???

And yet the democrats forge ahead with their socialist agenda...

Oh! Okay. So Rebecca said - "Is this the same Ann Coulter book in which she tell the reader how black people feel about various issues? Because she's really a black person? Oh, wait....she's a white person, right?"

So My Beliefs and Common Sense are Sarcasm yet Your Sarcasm is Subtle? Sure, what ever you say. And uh... whatever you think.

May I suggest www.dictionary.com?

Ann Coulter would understand "The Black Experience" for blacks who grew up in the continental United States, a hell of a lot better than Obama. If by chance you missed out on the Hawaiian culture and American patriotism, perhaps you should learn. While you're at it, learn what you can about Indonesia and how they feel about the United States of America. Obama has little to no concept of what it's like growing up poor in America. I do and and I'm not black. It never ceases to amaze me how blind liberals are in this country when it comes to Obama. It's really not that hard. Just listen to what he says. Then watch what he is doing.

I don't have to call radio stations to understand that Paul Ryan is trying to save what we have left of this nation. I personally don't blame our $16,000,000,000,000 debt on Obama but I do blame Obama and the Democrats for thinking we will be just fine as our loans on said debt has a low interest rate and future generations of America will be fine.

I predict if Obama finishes his second term, America will be at least $21,000,000,000,000 in debt. At that point, our economy collapses and the Global economy will collapse as well. I find no JOE BIDEN type humor in any of this.

Chris,
Thanks for the belly laugh!

All paul ryan is trying to save is his flagging political career.
Aside from a handful of wrong-wing extremists, he is done among the American electorate.

Do you have any 'intellectuals' who actually think rather than depend on the rantings of a failed novelist for ideas?

Learn how to say President Ryan by 2020 Eddie...

Another belly laugh.

'ann coulter's facts are sound'.
That 'sound' is the laughter of fact checkers around the country.

Where? When? YouTube? Links? Prove your claims. That should give you something to do today in your parent's basement.

Accusations from someone who babbles on the internet only to make excuses for such babble - "read my comments and despite my large fingers and poor eyes"

Poor eyes, fat fingers, lousy hearing and extremely poor comprehension? I get it. Just weak all around.

You again - "And don't assume just because no Obama-Biden signs are up that people are not voting for the President. They will. And landslide ? Let me be the first to tell you you're not right. Terrible awareness of what is going on around you"

There you go criticizing someone else for terrible awareness? Laughable. Let ME be the first to tell YOU, Obama loses in Georgia chum. And it's already known to be a landslide. Chuckle at that!

Chris,
The President loses GA, no big deal.
Our consistent cuts in education funding provide a 'political base' that is guaranteed to vote against it's own best interest and the interest of the Nation.
The President wins re-election.
That is a big deal, and a good thing for all of us!

Eddie E, I agree it’s a big deal if Obama gets elected again. Why is it a good thing for all of us? Debt, healthcare debacle, cover up on Fast and Furious, cover up on the Libya Terrorist Attack, Green energy scams, bankrupting clean energy, bailing out UAW, blocking oil drilling in the US while giving billions to other countries to drill, lots of failed promises (or lies as the Dems like to call it), accepting illegal campaign contributions, etc, etc.

Specifically, how will my grandchildren benefit from a continuance of Obama’s personal goals?

Chris,
The 'healthcare debacle' ends with implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable care act. Healtcare is and should be about access for patients, not profit for insurance parasites.
Fast and furious, so much intestinal gas for that criminal issa to blabber about.
There are and were no 'green energy scams' and the number of alternative energy projects that are bearing fruit to benefit American Citizens (and World Citizens) far outweigh the few that failed (at a cost of about a week's 'investment' in Afghanistan).
If you don't want automakers to have jobs, don't buy a car. Walking might be good for you.
Why should we replicate the BP disaster and damage the coastal resources of the many to slightly enhance profit of the few? Oil is yesterday's fuel.
What other AM radio nonsense-points would you like to discuss?

Eddie, all you are spouting is your libtard opinion. It means nothing without facts.

The fact is that Obama declared executive privilege to not allow facts to come out about Fast and Furious. Obama promised transparency in government matters but he lied through his teeth.

According to the CBO the cost of Obamacare is now up to 1.93 trillion. There is no such thing as "free" medical care because someone has to pay for it.

Obama's failed Green Energy projects:

Since taking office, Obama has invested billions of taxpayer dollars in private businesses, including as part of his stimulus spending bill. Many of those investments have turned out to be unmitigated disasters — leaving in their wake bankruptcies, layoffs, criminal investigations and taxpayers on the hook for billions. Consider a few examples:

• Raser Technologies. In 2010, the Obama administration gave Raser a $33 million taxpayer-funded grant to build a power plant in Beaver Creek, Utah. According to the Wall Street Journal, after burning through our tax dollars, the company filed for bankruptcy protection this year. The plant has fewer than 10 employees, and Raser owes $1.5 million in back taxes.

Part 2:

• ECOtality. The Obama administration gave ECOtality $126.2 million in taxpayer money in 2009 for, among other things, the installation of 14,000 electric car chargers in five states. Obama even hosted the company's president, Don Karner, in the first lady's box during the 2010 State of the Union address as an example of a stimulus success story.

According to ECOtality's own SEC filings, the company has since incurred more than $45 million in losses and has told the federal government: "We may not achieve or sustain profitability on a quarterly or annual basis in the future."

Worse, according to CBS News, the company is "under investigation for insider trading," and Karner has been subpoenaed "for any and all documentation surrounding the public announcement of the first Department of Energy grant to the company."

• Nevada Geothermal Power (NGP). The Obama administration gave NGP a $98.5 million taxpayer loan guarantee in 2010. The New York Times reported in October that the company is in "financial turmoil" and that "after a series of technical missteps that are draining Nevada Geothermal's cash reserves, its own auditor concluded in a filing released last week that there was 'significant doubt about the company's ability to continue as a going concern.'"

Part 3:
• First Solar. The Obama administration provided First Solar with more than $3 billion in loan guarantees for power plants in Arizona and California. According to a Bloomberg Businessweek report last week, the company "fell to a record low in Nasdaq Stock Market trading May 4 after reporting $401 million in restructuring costs tied to firing 30% of its workforce."
The Obama administration gave Abound Solar a $400 million loan guarantee to build photovoltaic panel factories. According to Forbes, in February the company halted production and laid off 180 employees.

• Beacon Power. The Obama administration gave Beacon — a green-energy storage company — a $43 million loan guarantee. According to CBS News, at the time of the loan, "Standard and Poor's had confidentially given the project a dismal outlook of 'CCC-plus.'" Last fall, Beacon received a delisting notice from Nasdaq and filed for bankruptcy.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. A company called SunPower got a $1.2 billion loan guarantee from the Obama administration, and as of January, the company owed more than it was worth. Brightsource got a $1.6 billion loan guarantee and posted a string of net losses totaling $177 million.

And let's not forget Solyndra, the solar panel manufacturer that received $535 million in taxpayer-funded loan guarantees and went bankrupt, leaving taxpayers on the hook.

Part 4:
Obama has declared that all of the projects received funding "based solely on their merits." But as Hoover Institution scholar Peter Schweizer reported in his book "Throw Them All Out," 71% of the Obama Energy Department's grants and loans went to "individuals who were bundlers, members of Obama's National Finance Committee, or large donors to the Democratic Party."

Collectively, these Obama cronies raised $457,834 for his campaign, and they were in turn approved for grants or loans of nearly $11.35 billion. Obama said this week that it's not the president's job "to make a lot of money for investors." Well, he sure seems to have made a lot of (taxpayer) money for investors in his political machine.

The cronyism and corruption are catching up with the administration. According to Politico, "The Energy Department's inspector general has launched more than 100 criminal investigations" related to the department's green-energy programs.

Now the man who made Solyndra a household name says Romney's record at Bain "is what this campaign is going to be about." Good luck with that, Mr. President. If Obama wants to attack Romney's alleged private-equity failures as chief executive of Bain, he'd better be ready to defend his own public-equity failures as chief executive of the United States.

Eddie E. is a 100% lost cause. A mere Obama robot. "Oil is yesterday's fuel" I don't know about you eddie but "yesterday" I put gasoline in my car and it came from oil.
What fuel does your car, taxi or bus run on today?

Eddie Georgia is 24th in spending for education. See page 12 at http://www.schoolfundingfairness.org/National_Report_Card_2012.pdf

This makes is in the middle of the pack unless you think we have 57 states.

@Andrew: We cannot give the Dept. of Education enough money, there is no amount large enough.

The poor outcomes are not due to lack of spending, poor outcomes are due to poor parenting by morons having kids. Average people, within modest means (the Average) produce kids that do will in school because they are disciplined at home, provided pre-school support, and are encouraged to do well in school.

We pay too much for too little, and that is apolitical.

The should do away with public schools as private schools cost less and do a better job.

Andrew,
Your lame, breathless 'list' proves my point.
Shall I counter with petroleum and shale gas companies that failed?
No, because they only represent a small fraction of the entire industry as does your 'list' represent difficulties in alternative energy production.
And as for the 'hoover institute's' numbers, some people will continue to sink in an attempt to find an entity that supports their faulty contention.

Eddie are you that clueless to say anybody has given petroleum and shale gas companies start-up funds within the last few decades? Not very bright are you?