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Moving Past Affordable Care Act Drama

Last week’s ruling on President Obama’s Affordable Healthcare Act was the full package. There were policy implications to be decided for the wonks, political implications (cont.)

Last week’s ruling on President Obama’s Affordable Care Act was the full package. There were policy implications to be decided for the wonks, political implications to be analyzed for the consultants, and, of course, presidential election drama for the pundits to react to.

In whichever part of the political process that you enjoy the most, something big was happening. However, now that it’s come and gone, the decision is over, but the emotions remain. There’s no need to comment on the various dramas of the day.

CNN’s failed reporting in the first 10 minutes was only a symptom, not the actual problem. And Justice Robert’s alleged switch doesn’t make him a secret liberal or the new swing vote. Two points make a line, and until he speaks for himself, we can’t extrapolate anything other than it was a surprise.

Instead, now that everyone else is done being a Constitutional scholar, the people who actually are can start the tedious, yet necessary, work of deciphering exactly what the decision means for American law. This is a process that takes more than a morning, despite what network news might have you think, and is essential to having a factual debate over the future of the Affordable Care Act. All that can be said for certain is that the Supreme Court’s decision has thrust healthcare back into the 2012 presidential election and, honestly, even that nugget is something that was reasonably predicted beforehand.

At this point in time, there are only two things that I would personally want to be saying about this decision. One, Governor Deal has to realize that now is the time for Georgia to start creating the healthcare exchange required underneath this law. He cannot run out the clock until a November election and hope that Romney is able to win.

Republicans will need to take the presidency and Senate in order to have a hope of repealing the entirely of the Affordable Care Act, but those are long odds. If Governor Deal doesn’t act now, it’s only going to be to the detriment of the Georgia GOP, as they will find our state’s healthcare exchange being run by the federal government.

The second thing is that America has spent two years locked in this intractable battle over healthcare reform. The struggle has become a symbol of things much larger than itself. The tactics and strategies used for the past two years, on both sides, have been partisan and nasty. However, it’s done now. All three branches have had their say on the law, and it’s survived each time.

In the future, there will be many chances for both parties to modify, change, and refine how healthcare will work in this country. This is America; it’s what we do. We always like to be better. But as a nation, we need to move on from the poison itself in order to see more clearly in the future.

Reprinted from State Senator Curt Thompson's (D-5th) blog. Also, check the Senator out on Facebook and Twitter.

Jimmy July 9, 2012 at 09:41 pm
Lee, if you go to Canada and wait like David just described, maybe in the interim they will find a cure for that smug know-it-all attitude that seems to come so naturally to those, like you, who have their hand out...USA. I love it. You and you're ilk are screwing it up. If Scotland was so good, why dont you go back? As we like to say down here, Delta is ready when you are.
rick July 9, 2012 at 09:57 pm
Typical liberal. To hell with the constitution. A pathetic response to an untenable law.
lee kellogg July 9, 2012 at 10:18 pm
No Tammy, the doctor and the patient make the decision, the government pays for it, unless there's fraud, in which case the government stops it and prosecutes. And if you somehow think state governments make better decisions: Look at Ga. and search out which kind of government it was that ended segregation. The belief that any other place has to be horrible because nameless posters use !!! and nastiness is wrong too. An ultraconservative lawyer decided the health care act constitutional. Too bad Jeff Davis isn't around to defend the wounded and whining. Little Jimmy, if you can say where or when there was a better country, go ahead. Pay your taxes. Get out of the basement.
rick July 9, 2012 at 10:30 pm
If you like it so much, why don't you go back. We certainly need you or your ilk here.
rick July 9, 2012 at 10:33 pm
You're a liar.
rick July 9, 2012 at 10:47 pm
I can't think of a finer example of what the public education has wrought after reading the comments of Lee and Sherilu.
lee kellogg July 10, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Nice work rickie. Now out of your Mom's basement and off to private school. Maybe you could study law. Then again, not likely. By the way, Canadians approve of their health care system in large numbers. Britains do too, with slightly lower numbers, probably because the Murdoch misinformation system lies about the NHS everyday.
rick July 10, 2012 at 09:00 pm
Lee, you've left me no doubt that you're a bleeder. I think come November you will crawl back into the hole that you crawled out from and continue to suck on your thumb, begging the world to make it right.
lee kellogg July 10, 2012 at 10:05 pm
That's not all that adult little rick, but hey, you go.
rick July 10, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Just found out I'm right about you, You should know that neighbors talk. You're not that thought of too highly of even in your own neighborhood.
Ground Chuck July 11, 2012 at 02:20 am
Independent of the political posturing (and I am no fan of Obama), I am very happy about sections of the bill. Curt's article is right on target. Covering pre-existing conditions plus coverage for children is great news. I personally have seen a number of people broken by huge co-pays and inability to find coverage. Now the people who can afford it and refuse to buy into a policy is another subject altogether. However, I do not like some of the fees and taxes on totally unrelated goods and services. I think some or much of this will go away eventually. However, cutting back on emergency room visits by the indigent population may also help reduce the impact on costs, not to mention some sort of improved preventative practices. My concerns also center around why Medicare wasn't enhanced (instead of passing this bill) plus the internal costs of running the program. The federal government has never run anything efficiently, and I disaprove of IRS involvement. Finally, a bigger issue still unresolved is Medicare fraud and abuse. What is going to be done about that within this new bill? Nothing.
P.S. I really hate that Flex Spending accounts will be limited to $2500.
lee kellogg July 11, 2012 at 12:31 pm
I think you're correct, Chuck. There was too much compromise in order to get Romneycare passed. There are plenty of successful models: Canada, Britain, Australia, Nordic and Asian countries too. Either way you look at it, conservatives blocked, lied and screamed long and loud enough to force Obama to find a way around them, or Obama wasn't tough enough to get a better bill, this is start for a better system. A long way from perfect. I think the biggest problem is the creation of a large bureaucracy. Not the horrible government one they scream about on the Fake news, rather insurance companies will do a lot of the same things they do now, only slightly more supervised. They may keep costs down, unlikely from their track record, but will still make big profits managing what the government can do without that extra burden. $2500 seems low to me too. Let those that can afford to put more into those accounts do so.
Msgoff July 11, 2012 at 09:07 pm
It is okay because for years we have been paying for healthcare for those people who NEED (have not choice but) to spend money on such things and those who do not purchase insurance because they feel their money is better spent on such things. As I tell my children in some circumstances regarding personal matters, "I pay one way or another."
Msgoff July 11, 2012 at 09:12 pm
Hi Jimmy, And why should I pay for education when I do not have children in the school system? Just saying! Why should I vote for a tax increase to support transportation when I don't have a car and am unable to get to regional or local transportation, if I live long enough for that to come into existence? Just saying!
Msgoff July 11, 2012 at 09:19 pm
Amen! I posted on another conversation that I was in the ER at the behest of my cardiologist, even though I protested going there, and hours later when I was hungry and asked about food I was asked if I wanted their stale sandwich or something else was mentioned. I opted for the "stale" sandwich, which tasted very good at that point. That particular hospital was no longer providing a hot meal because people were coming into the ER with complaints in order to get a meal. Now that's sad, very sad that anyone has to resort to that. That was an expensive meal, which was paid for by ME and YOU!
I just scrolled down and started reading Joe Cley's comments which are unfounded; as I said a few minutes ago, spread ignorance.
Msgoff July 11, 2012 at 09:24 pm
Thanks! I cannot tell you how many times I have wanted to puke when someone stared me in the eyes and said, "I'm a Christian, but." It always sounds as if they are defending themselves. I believe that you do not have to tell me you are a Christian; show me. Remember, "Actions speak louder than words."
Msgoff July 11, 2012 at 09:30 pm
The wait for health care in Canada may be long because more people have access to it; e.g. it is available to ALL people. Maybe.
Msgoff July 11, 2012 at 09:44 pm
Well said. Medicare does have a lot to be desired; it is not the jewel most people think it is (esp. part D), however, it is better than nothing. Just to learn how that "doughnut hole" works is mind boggling and sickening. One reaches the doughnut hole not only by what is paid out-of-pocket, but includes what the insurer pays; therefore, the elderly enter that "gap" very quickly, after which the cost of medication sky rockets. I think the government has and is doing a lot to deter Medicare fraud and abuse. A good deterrent should be those doctors and other health care workers who are sitting in jail. Although there will always be those who think they won't get caught. I think the gov't. is too large to run many programs efficiently. There are too many layers, workers historically have a reputation of not being as productive (not everyone), and often times the law or program is not understood and subject to a zillion interpretations. As one of my staff once said, "We need to get a good 'ol government job." They are not easy to come by either.
Ross Crawford July 11, 2012 at 09:56 pm
Wow, "Give to everyone who begs from you, and if anyone takes away your goods do not ask them again". Are you kidding me. Take that attitude to downtown Atlanta along with your pocketbook and all your possessions. Oh, and no need to lock your front door when you are away-just let anyone take what they want, don't call the police and do not ask for any items to be returned. Please keep us updated on how that works out for you and your family.
Msgoff July 11, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Hmmmmm, "take that attitude to DOWNTOWN ATLANTA," what does that imply? No need to take it into Atlanta, just look around your immediate environment. I am a Christian, but.........
Jimmy July 11, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Msg, if Medicare has a lot to be desired, and you think the govt is too large to run many programs efficiently, then why would you think they were capable of running the entire health system?
Ross Crawford July 11, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Msgoff, not the racial implication dripping from your all caps quote. Have you ever been to downtown Atlanta? I am a native Atlantan. The aggressive panhandlers in many areas are ruining business, and tourism. While tailgating at a Falcon's game with some out of town guests, a panhandler came up to one of my guest and asked for some money. My friend gave him a couple of dollars, but when he opened his wallet the beggar saw he had some $10's and $20's. Then he demanded more money. We had to call over an APD officier to get the guy to leave us alone. Why don't you and Sherilu drive down there with a handful of cash. They'll love you till the cash is gone.
Jimmy July 11, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Msg, maybe you should spend a little less time 'just sayin' and a little more time 'just thinkin'...if you dont have a car, dont vote for the tax increase. If you dont have kids in school then dont vote for the school tax increase either. At least you get to vote on it. I'm still waiting for my opportunity to vote on the obamacare tax increases.
Jimmy July 11, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Ross, the trademark of a liberal is their generosity. With other people's money...
Brian Crawford July 11, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Well thank god for football Ross, with out it you could just pretend the poor don't exist.
Ross Crawford July 11, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Brian, if I didn't work my tail off I'd be poor. If those folks begging for handouts would take personal responsibility, oh I forgot. you're a liberal. No need to go on with my "personal responsibility" lecture as it would be wasted on you. And God is spelled with a capital G, not god. Dang, forgot you libs probably don't believe in God either.
Brian Crawford July 12, 2012 at 12:01 am
Actually, since I was using it colloquially the small "g" is acceptable. Got any more Liberal stereotypes you want to get off your chest?
Msgoff July 12, 2012 at 01:09 am
Ross, that's your interpretation; I only asked "What does that imply?" Naww, I don't go downtown, I stay out here where it is safe. As for Sherilu and me "driving down there with a handful of cash," no way; we're smarter than that (to have a handful of cash). I don't give money to panhandlers anyway. I help in other ways. As a matter of fact, I carry about $5 because that's usually all that I have. Besides, I don't have a car to get down there because one of the children I don't have is driving the Benz that I don't own.
Msgoff July 12, 2012 at 01:29 am
"then why would you think they were capable of running the entire health system?" - Jimmy
Did I say that? I have read and re-read my comment several times and I don't see anywhere that I said the government is capable of running the entire health system. BTW, did you folks know that GA residents did not receive a refund from insurance companies as mandated in the ACA? The governor opted GA citizens out, rather than in; that's how one represents his constituents. Oh well, we elected him to represent us. It has been great chatting with all of you today. I don't know when I last had so much fun. A good debate every now and then is good. Good night all!
Msgoff July 12, 2012 at 02:18 am
"Even if a conservative think tank 'invented' the idea that doesn't make it right ( a claim I strongly doubt because liberals have been trying to do it for a lot longer than a decade-" Jimmy
Liberals have been trying to pass some type of health care bill for 75, yes seventy-five years. Boy does it take a long time for them to accomplish something! Just saying! :-) LOL http://www.masslive.com/mitt-romney-archive/index.ssf/2012/04/mitt_romney_signs_massachusetts_health_care_law.html "Surrounded by leaders of the state Legislature including U.S. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy during a ceremony at Faneuil Hall, Romney hailed the law as an achievement that occurs only once in a generation. 'Today, Massachusetts is leading the way with health insurance for everyone, without a government takeover and without raising taxes,' Romney said. The governor vetoed a $295-per-employee assessment on companies with 11 or more full-time workers that don't offer and contribute to their employees' health insurance. Romney said the assessment was unnecessary and counter-productive." Romney-Kennedy Health Care Bill Signing (Listen to how affectionately he introduces Senator Kennedy) ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4iTtNGjFY4 BTW, I think Senator Kennedy may be holding a gun to Governor Romney's head. Just saying! Problem is, I think too much, e.g. about how you guys crack me up! LOL.

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