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Gwinnett Citizens Rally for Gun Safety

A little over two months after the shootings in Newtown, CT., a demonstration asking U.S. Rep Rob Woodall to support gun safety laws was held at the Gwinnett Justice Administration Center in Lawrenceville, Ga.

A group of concerned citizens stood with signs outside the Gwinnett Justice and Administration Center in Lawrenceville Thursday to call for support of reasonable gun safety laws.

The rally took place two months after the tragic. Twenty-six people, mostly young children, lost their lives when a gunman opened fire in the school.

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MoveOn.org sponsored the event urging U.S. Representative Rob Woodall—who’s office is housed in GJAC—to take action on gun safety. 

“We ask Representative Woodall to listen to his constituents and stand up for common sense reforms that will reduce gun violence,” said Kathleen Allen in a release. Allen is a mother in Norcross, a gun owner and MoveOn.org member.  “Congress must not wait for the next Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech, Tucson or Columbine before taking action. Representative Woodall needs to return to Washington next week and vote to protect our children and our community. We urge Representative Woodall to stand up against gun violence and know that the extreme NRA doesn't speak for many gun owners.”

Those who came out were not asking for a total ban on all guns, but were looking to remove assault weapons and high-capacity magazines from general public use as well as improving background checks.

Mark Williams February 22, 2013 at 02:07 PM
I would like to know what their idea of REASONABLE GUN SAFETY laws would be? I can not see where ANY of the laws that are being discussed, could have, or would have would have prevented the incidents in Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech, Tucson, or Columbine if they had been in place at the time. I totally agree, it is time to use common sense and not reactionary measures. You cant stop one crazed person, by locking up people that are exercising their constitutional rights.
Edward February 22, 2013 at 03:07 PM
I am a gun owner, NRA member and moveon.org contributor and like Mark I can't think of any new so-called "reasonable" laws although I see the right lingual is being used for a change I.e. gun safety. I know way too many gun owners who like myself believe strongly in responsible gun ownership. I will never support a ban on assault weapons and or high capacity magazines simply because it doesn't add value to mitigating future mass shootings. The Sandy Hook incident was a tragic incident that I never want to see happen again but if I'm not mistaken the assault rifle was found in the trunk of his vehicle. I can see how background checks might keep firearms out of the wrong hands but that too wouldn't have prevented any of these senseless killings. The NRA has taken an approach that doesn't help much and I think more emphasis should be placed on gun safety training and awareness. If you own any type of firearms its the gun owners responsibility to not only secure it but also ensure its not readily available to anyone including your kids etc. No new laws are going to curb these shootings in my opinion.
David Brown February 22, 2013 at 03:56 PM
This non-carrier is thankful for groups like MoveOn.org when it comes to the gun control issue. I support background checks and a ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines. And don't even get me started on bringing guns into churches.
Mark Williams February 22, 2013 at 04:48 PM
I believe in gun safety. I taught my kids to understand, and how to safely handle guns. This is where we fail. Teaching our kids. No one should pick up a gun if they do not understand it. My kids would never hand over a gun to someone blindly, just as they know to check a gun as soon as it touches their hands. Check it to make sure they understand it. (loaded, or unloaded, and how to handle it).If they don't understand it, they know to either get instruction from the person that handed it to them, hand it back, or leave it alone.They know to never point a gun at something they do not intend to shoot. There is no such thing as an "UNLOADED GUN". Every gun should always be handled as if it is loaded."THAT IS GUN SAFETY" And that is what most sportsman know, and teach their kids. Taking the rights away from my family to own, and use guns for hunting, target practice, skill training, etc. will not keep a crazy person from malicious acts.There are background checks already in place. My family abides by these. We do not carry guns to places we do not intend to use them. So you will not see us at the grocery store with a sidearm. But we do hunt, and target practice, and things of that nature. I do not have a use for a gun at church, and my kids have no reason to carry one to school. They have been taught that. Changing laws will only make more obstacles for someone like me. And not address a real problem. The laws are strong enough. We need to stop REACTION LEGISLATION.
David Brown February 22, 2013 at 05:08 PM
Mark, for the record, no one is proposing taking away your rights to own a gun. You and I just simply disagree on this hot button issue. But, that's what makes America the great nation it is.:)
Mark Williams February 22, 2013 at 05:28 PM
OHHHH...David, But yes they are talking about taking away my right to own a gun. There is no difference between what is being "classified" as an assault weapon, and one of my hunting rifles. The only difference is in the appearance. But these classifications are being pushed by the media, and people with little understanding of guns. So if I take my 308 hunting rifle, and change the stock, and put a handle on top, it would be seen as an "EVIL" gun and and outlawed. In reality, it's like saying we need to get rid of all the black cars because they cause drunk driving accidents. For arguments sake, lets take my 308 and change the stock, and put a handle on it. It's the exact same mechanism, it shoots the same. It does no more damage in any way than it did before to anything. It has a 7 round clip. I can get a 10 round clip for it even if we do away with mega clips...so lets say we pass laws that limits a clip to 15 rounds. I can go buy 2 - 15 round clips, tape them with electrical tape end to end, and have 30 a 30 round clip to carry with me anywhere. So where did the new laws help anything? But it kept me from owning a rifle that has a handle on it. That just does not make sense. And it certainly would not have prevented any of the horrific incidents. So lets do this, lets go ahead and ban "assault rifles", and limit the clips, and lets make it illegal for you to own a black car.
Mark Williams February 22, 2013 at 05:36 PM
Just another thought. Lets put this into reality. Lets say that there was a horrible accident that killed 26 people, and it was caused by an idiot in a red car that just decided to drive his red car into a crowd of people waiting to get into a baseball game. Well here goes our reactionary legislators, we have to do SOMETHING...Lets ban ALL the colored cars. That is what is causing these terrible things. Lets make it illegal to own a colored car. Everyone that wants to own a car from now on will just have to drive a white one. If you are caught driving a red car, you are charged with a crime.....David.....where would you stand if this were the case.....Because that is basically what is happening, only with guns, not cars.....And that IS NOT America.....I enjoy the freedoms in this country to drive a red car, and to own a gun, just as our constitution promises me as a citizen. And I will fight for those freedoms just as our forefathers fought for us to have those rights to begin with.
David Brown February 22, 2013 at 08:04 PM
Mark, at this point we will have to agree to disagree. I guess it's just the hoplophobe in me:) I commend you for putting your position forth strongly, yet without personal attacks toward me. I do appreciate that.
Dave Emanuel February 22, 2013 at 08:33 PM
As with virtually every other call for more stringent gun laws since the horror of Sandy Hook, this one is simply another knee-jerk reaction that ignores the facts. One of those facts is- Throughout history, and across all national boundaries, two groups of the people always have guns-- police/military and criminals. It doesn't matter whether possession of firearms is legal or illegal, criminals always have guns. While banning assault rifles and high capacity magazines may provide warm fuzzy feelings of accomplishment, such bans will have virtually no impact on gun violence. For the doubters in the crowd, according to FBI crime statistics for 2011, rifles of ALL types were consistently the least used weapon in the commission of homicides. In Connecticut, a rifle was used in the commission of only one homicide, while knives and cutting instruments were used in the commission of 18 murders. National statistics reflect those in Connecticut and also bring into focus the futility of banning assault rifles and large capacity magazines as a means of reducing crime. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-11
David Brown February 22, 2013 at 09:20 PM
Every now and then I'm tempted to give some credence to the pro-gun arguments. Then, I read of this morning's incident in the Bronx where a father accidentally shot his five-year-old son in the arm. Thank God, the little guy is in stable condition in the hospital.
Dave Emanuel February 22, 2013 at 10:23 PM
David-- As you know, you can't fix stupid. The fact that a father took less than maximum precautions with a firearm, while his five-year-old was close by, tells you something. But beyond that, what would be your reaction to the father accidentally cutting his son with a knife, running over him with a car, dropping circular saw on him or any other of a 100 possible accidents? Is the answer to make knives, cars and circular saws illegal? There's no question that the misuse of firearms can have horrible consequences, but those consequences are not exclusive to guns. And from what I've seen, death or injury caused by firearms is no more or less horrifying than death or injury caused by any other means. Yet, people are focused on firearms, to the exclusion of other considerations, because the Sandy Hook tragedy.
David Brown February 22, 2013 at 10:43 PM
Dave, my friend, I don't want to unnecessarily obfuscate the main issue here. The fact is that if the father didn't own a gun, then the son would not have been shot. This incident would not have happened to my son, because I've never owned a gun.
Dave Emanuel February 23, 2013 at 04:19 AM
So let's follow your line of reasoning to its logical conclusion - if I didn't have a car, I never would have had that accident (in which my son was injured); if I didn't have a bicycle, my son would never have fallen off of it and injured himself, if we didn't have a fireplace, my son would never have gotten burned. Where do you stop? If you don't like guns and don't want to own one, that is certainly your prerogative, but that won't ensure that your son isn't injured by something else that you own. Your concern for your son's safety and your dedication to keeping him safe will minimize the possibility of accidental injury- whether you own a gun or not.
David Brown February 23, 2013 at 01:25 PM
Dave, you must be a Rudyard Kipling enthusiast with all of those "ifs".:) I prefer to deal with the real, instead of the hypothetical. Have a great weekend.
Will Thompson February 23, 2013 at 08:23 PM
This is an interesting discussion. Both sides made some good points but after the last post all I can think of is none are so blind as those who will not see. If you refuse to see the hpothetical you will not see the reality until it is too late.

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