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State leaders say they will delay implementing the Georgia drug-testing law while a similar measure in Florida is sorted out in federal court. File|Patch
Nick M July 4, 2014 at 10:44 am
Mack, it's a waster of taxpayers money. Some facts about Florida where the law was passed and thenRead More stuck down: A U.S. judge has struck down a Florida law requiring drug screening for welfare recipients, saying that it violated the constitutional protection against unreasonable searches. The testing fee of $25 to $45 was to be repaid by the state if the test came back negative, but applicants who tested positive would have been barred from receiving benefits for a year. Judge Mary Scriven permanently halted enforcement of the law in her ruling. She agreed with an earlier court finding that "there is nothing inherent in the condition of being impoverished that supports the conclusion that there is a concrete danger that impoverished individuals are prone to drug use ..." During the time the law was in effect, about 2.6 percent of recipients tested positive for illegal drugs, mostly for marijuana, according to the court documents. The failure rate was well below that of the general population. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services found in a 2009 survey that about, 8.7 percent, of the population aged 12 or older had used illicit drugs in the previous month. Generally, the courts have allowed suspicionless drug testing only when public safety is at risk, such as for armed officers or railroad workers who operate heavy equipment. http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/welfare.asp
erie July 8, 2014 at 03:07 am
Test the law makers to. Lets see what they popping, smoking and drinking too. I don't do drugsRead More unless my doctor give them to me. I'm will to bet that the people whos trying to make this law be getting high as can be to want to pass a law like this.
erie July 8, 2014 at 03:08 am
Test the law makers too. smiling
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Ric Honsa, CPA July 2, 2014 at 03:19 pm
Sorry, my ability to defend my self and my loved ones trumps their wishes that not carry my firearm.Read More With that noted, you assume that someone is a conservative because they carry a gun. You have no idea what each person believes from a political perspective.
Marlene Mitchell July 2, 2014 at 06:42 pm
I have often wondered what liability a store owner would have if a criminal shot and killed someoneRead More in their store. If by Targets request I didn't carry my gun into their store and I was shot and killed because I was unable to defend myself...how does Target proved that they were properly looking after my best welfare?? My bleeding corpse would make one wonder if Target did all they could to keep their customers safe. Would they have to prove it? OR....do the criminals have more rights than I do? I would think that a certain portion of my death would have to be their fault if they didn't take steps to keep ALL guns out of the store?? Thoughts?
Phil Evans July 5, 2014 at 01:47 pm
I believe Target is riding the fence to try and appease Bloomberg's Moms Demand Action as well asRead More trying not to make gun owners mad enough to not shop there. They do not yet have a hard policy of prohibiting guns. They are merely "asking" that we don't carry there. At least one person I know of has openly carried his pistol in a Target store since this announcement, with no issues. I say carry on as if they've not made the request, to show the public what this really is about - politics and not safety. All they can do is ask you to leave, and if they do, publicize it to help others avoid their stores.
Georgia's HB 459 may help decrease traffic jams. (Patch file photo)
Cain Harris July 7, 2014 at 10:35 pm
Speed limit was 75 or higher when I was a kid. Everyone drove 85 & 90. Now some folks considerRead More 75 to be too fast. The new law only makes the traffic flow better and let's face it, makes perfect sense unless you have an ego problem and don't like being passed.
janh999 July 9, 2014 at 09:04 am
Did some research & RAY J will be surprised to know that EVERY STATE has a law that slowerRead More traffic has move to the right. Some specify if doing the speed limit, some don't. But in any case, when you learn to drive it is in your little permit booklet in every state that you must move to the right for faster traffic to pass on your left. Maybe RAY J should check his facts before he spouts from the know all fountain.
janh999 July 9, 2014 at 09:07 am
Did some research & RAY J will be surprised to know that EVERY STATE has a law that slowerRead More traffic has move to the right. Some specify if doing the speed limit, some don't. But in any case, when you learn to drive it is in your little permit booklet in every state that you must move to the right for faster traffic to pass on your left. Maybe RAY J should check his facts before he spouts from the know all fountain. And for Mary Brown, Its illegal to pass on the right, that's why they made this law more clear. Its not up to you to decide who you will let pass, Its a law which makes you the problem
A new Georgia law allows districts to build policies for guns in hands of school staff. Schools aren't biting. What do you think? Patch file.
Natassia Grover July 1, 2014 at 02:54 pm
I also can't believe that you are saying a woman cannot be nurturing while also armed. Unbelievable.
Brent Seeger July 1, 2014 at 02:56 pm
Its a great idea. They root out communists and subversives and fifth columnists and Obama supportersRead More and run them out of town with the rest of the illegals.
Drewboo July 1, 2014 at 03:30 pm
Who said anything about a woman? You are obviously trying to start crap lol. Nice try though.Read More Newsflash - we have male teachers and male nurses in 2014... back to what you said about an armed citizen not being able to pull the trigger - my thoughts exactly. A kid is shooting up the school and an armed citizen just might not be able to look at the child and shoot them. Our society doesnt look at children as target practice, so when presented with a child with a gun, I dont buy that the average citizen would shoot a child. So what I get from this back and forth is that you folks have opinions that go back and forth however you like to make a point and then you also like to start crap either that or you cant read. Teachers who cant read.... interesting.
Gwinnett Board of Commissioners
John Cook July 10, 2014 at 11:06 am
The population increase figures to ask for this property tax increase are misleading. The 50,000Read More figure given by the Gwinnett County Finance Staff to justify their currently recommended 7.25% property tax increase covers four (4) years. Only one year of that population increase should be allowed, or 12,500 increased population, because they used the previous three years to justify their 5.5% increase last year. Should they be allowed to continuously double-dip on the same population increase year after year? See the official Board Of Commissioner minutes containing the Finance Staff's Power Point justification of the 5.5% increase in 2013 at https://www.gwinnettcounty.com/static/upload/bac/52/20130702/m_Special%20Called%20Meeting%20Minutes%20330pm%20-%2007022013.pdf When I look at Page 19, it indicates the 5.5% tax increase for property owners in unincorporated Gwinnett. Page 12 shows population in 1996 of 489,382 increasing to 840,000+ in 2012. They already used the years of population increase up to and including 2012. Tell the Finance Staff to move on.
John Cook July 10, 2014 at 11:32 am
When asking for a tax increase in 2009, our County Finance Staff told us that their bloated budgetRead More had been thoroughly vetted, and not one penny of excess remained in the budget. They insisted that quality of life in Gwinnett County would cease if a penny more was cut from that budget. Mike Beaudreau was the only commissioner voicing opposition to the County Finance Staff's recommendation. He took the budget home and studied it at night and on weekends. He found several items that he brought to the attention of the Commissioners and to the public during one of the morning work sessions. After lunch, Bannister, Lassiter, and Nasuti returned for the Business Session where they voted to cut a park, a police precinct, and a fire station from his district as punishment for suggesting cuts in lieu of a tax increase. Bannister, Lasseter, and Nasuti were telling him that if he wanted cuts, they would give him cuts. Nevertheless, Beaudreau continued to insist that cuts could be made, and voted NO on the tax increase both times the vote was called. Since that time, Beaudreau's assertion has been proven correct, despite Finance Staff recommendations to the contrary. He's running for State Senate Dist 9 on July 22. We need to elect him so he can get a closer look at the GA budget.
John Cook July 10, 2014 at 01:24 pm
At this rate of increase, our property tax will double in 16 years. The Finance Staff asked andRead More received 5.5% in 2013. They are asking for 7.25% in 2014. That's almost 13% in two years.
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American Patriot July 10, 2014 at 11:28 pm
Woody I can defend myself with or without a gun. The Marine Corps trained me very well.... reallyRead More surprised that you had no comment on my last post. When you analyze the numbers it just doesn't make sense to focus on guns and violent crime. Mathematically speaking there is no correlation between the two.
David Tiffany July 11, 2014 at 12:33 pm
Irish, it didn't do those cops much good to be armed, did it? Bless you and your worthless firearms.
IrishBobW July 11, 2014 at 03:57 pm
What cops are you talking about, David? I don't understand what you are saying about it did them noRead More good to be armed. What is that suppose to mean? You don't make sense with your commit. Are you talking about the black kid that killed a cop with a assault rifle? The cop did not pull his weapon because cops as trained to try to talk to the other person, but this kid opened fire first. The cop did not have a chance to pull his weapon. You and Woody just don't understand anything. You only believe what you want. Even when hit in the face with the truth, you still won't get it.
SUNKEN SUB June 11, 2014 at 08:08 pm
* UP SCOPE ============================================ The only thing more absurd than thisRead More article is the grammar. ============================================ Example: ============================================ "SHE was told HE could no longer participate in the program." ============================================ That (minus the EMPHASIS) is a direct quote. ============================================ There Two Sexes and, like matter, cannot occupy two places at once, however you say that in Physics. ============================================ Down Scope
SUNKEN SUB June 13, 2014 at 08:39 pm
* UP SCOPE ============================================ No credit for a save huh Patch ?Read More ============================================ Down Scope
Beginning July 1, Georgia boaters under 16 must complete boater education class.
DaMoment June 10, 2014 at 05:38 am
Keep living...you will continue to be amazed!
Josephine Gamma June 10, 2014 at 08:28 am
This is great and should be in place but I don't understand how you need an course on how toRead More properly use a boat but not on how to use and store a firearm?
Lone Stranger June 10, 2014 at 09:14 am
Ok fair enough. I can see having a firearms training program. The only problem is it will be anotherRead More layer of regulation and that never solves anything.
Cannabidiol is a marijuana extract that does not make users high. File|Patch
Tim May 29, 2014 at 04:45 pm
Oh, and drinking beer is not against the law. In fact, I believe I'll have one now.....iceRead More cold.....what are you doing Donna, tokin' on a Dubie?
Tim May 29, 2014 at 05:39 pm
I have my own Moral Compass there pardner. I've worked for everything I own. I am not dependent onRead More the Government like most of the sorry Ass to lazy to work worthless pieces of Humanity. Parasites and leeches sucking the blood out of our Economy. And I'm not talking about the ones that are truly disabled, physically or mentally. I'm talking about the freeloaders, the cancers that are destroying this society.
Donna May 29, 2014 at 10:49 pm
Yes, Tim, I have a job. Just ended 14 hours for today and expect at least 3 more by morning. PeopleRead More count on me to help win multimillion dollar contracts every day. It helps keep our economy running. Maybe I mentioned already my high IQ? I'm not having a drink tonight because, quite frankly, I've had too many encounters in my life with heavy drinkers, and just the smell of it makes me ill. The effects of alcohol on people's behavior can also often be so destructive to lives, unlike smoking pot. However, you are free to choose your own poison, unlike non-drinking potheads - to wit, my original post re: civil liberties. I'll leave you to think on it. Maybe something said will turn on a light for you. Judging by your disgusting posts in what should be an adultlike discussion, I don't hold out much hope. Rant over.
Snellville, Ga., news
TOWG May 15, 2014 at 08:19 am
This is a priority for our city government? Glad to hear they're all caught up on the other pressingRead More issues in Snellville. This is another PR mess in the making.
laura May 15, 2014 at 02:41 pm
Not only does this city government have more to do than this - how do you think you are going toRead More enforce it?? People will still walk the streets and ask for money. If you are going to do this, do it for all of the door to door solicitors - the church organization that is known for walking door to door to engage new members. Fortunately, most girl scouts do not sell door to door anymore except for in their own neighborhood and GSUSA does not encourage DtD selling.
Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp. Photo Credit: File|Patch
Elizabeth Elizabeth May 14, 2014 at 10:45 am
It sounds to me like donated clothing that is resale-able is and what is left is given to residents.Read More The problem is in the implication that when you donate something nice and envision it bringing warmth, comfort, and pride to someone in need, free of charge it might in fact be diverted into the secondary market as a revenue stream instead and this is misleading. Additionally, the "entrance fee" paid back at $400 per month seems rather steep and a bit like modern day indentured servitude. An in depth look at the financials, hopefully audited by an independent accountant, is probably a wise idea...
Mother Reaching Daughters Inc. May 14, 2014 at 01:18 pm
It's so-called organizations like this one that makes it hard for other organizations that trulyRead More have a heart for people.
Dave May 20, 2014 at 11:31 am
Catherine, why not review the law itself instead of a bunch of lies from a liberal site. The linkRead More you posted holds very little fact concerning the GA law that will take affect July 1st. Examples: People under 18 can't own guns...true but neither can people under 21 unless a member of the armed forces. GA doesn't require a background check for the purchase of a forearm...just a blatant lie. The federal laws prevail on purchasing firearms and this is a GA requirement. Domestic violence perpetuators aren't required to surrender their firearms....again, a blatant lie. Anyone convicted of domestic violence loses their firearms and the right to ever buy another one. You liberals are just sickening with your lies, your lack of interest in truth, and you such easy willingness to fall for anything your puppet masters feed you. Disgusting that American citizens have fallen so far into the nanny state.
TheSkalawag May 21, 2014 at 10:13 am
Catherine Anne I have found that confronting right-wingers with facts and ignoring their nameRead More calling presents them with a mental quandary they are unprepared to handle. That's why they need to cling to implements of violence and use over the top rhetoric. It assuage the battering and bruising their egos take after doing battle with facts and truth. There is nothing wrong in believing that there is good in everyone. It's just that you have to dig deeper in some people to find it. Thanks for sharing your perspective. I hope that you will continue to do so.
"E Pluribus Unum" May 21, 2014 at 02:23 pm
Catherine Anne, thank you for demonstrating knowledge and constraint. I have enjoyed reading yourRead More contributions and have learned so much. You have qualities to endure inappropriate BS that I don't have. What it seems like to me is there is a cadre of extreme right haters whose job is to scan and spam any publication and comment sections with their ideology. What we all have observed here is their pathetic MO.
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knee jerk July 3, 2014 at 08:27 pm
No, Igor: If it comes out of their mouths it is the truth. You on the other hand have to proveRead More everything you say. At least that's the way it seemed when I last did jury duty. Hypocrisy.
Igor July 4, 2014 at 06:27 pm
Last time I had jury duty, the judge giving the instructions told us that when listening toRead More testimony, the police testimony holds no more credence than the average citizen. If you fight a ticket, guess who the judge is going to believe?
knee jerk July 4, 2014 at 08:58 pm
My point exactly.
Octo Slash May 2, 2014 at 08:23 am
Does anyone besides me see the GLARING INSANELY HILARIOUS IRONY in this story about "racialRead More insensitivity"? "Upset callers also reported the robo calls to >>>BLACK WOMAN<<< for Obama, which had planned a Thursday rally at Rhodes Jordan Park in Lawrenceville to protest." I mean, folks.....ROFLMGDFAO!!!!!!!!!!
Octo Slash May 2, 2014 at 08:26 am
Oh another thing, seriously. Democrats, y'all are so bent out of shape on race and labels andRead More groups...you ain't doing anyone, least of all yourselves, any good. But hey...stick with your party, which has FIFTY MILLION ON FOODSTAMPS AND THE WEAKEST ECONOMY SINCE WWII.
janh999 May 2, 2014 at 09:06 am
If you want to talk labels you could actually have a better chance at these statements beingRead More "sexist" die to the fact that the woman was labeled a "swim mom" saying she is nothing more than a mom. Yet the man was labeled a "businessman" saying he is a strong breadwinner. What a bunch of manure.
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WompBomp June 13, 2014 at 04:18 pm
>Democrats<
T as in Truth June 13, 2014 at 10:35 pm
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T as in Truth June 13, 2014 at 10:37 pm
Speaking of no bs....time to think about stopping at white castle® to try their new siratchaRead More chicken sliders. Available for a limited time only.
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Tass Kandle June 20, 2014 at 10:56 am
They can put fruity/marshmallow flavors in vodka ( product that is KNOWN to kill people) but not inRead More e-cigarettes, a product that I believe saved my life? Sorry but you can pull my cappuccino flavor loaded vape pen from my cold dead lips.
Becky June 20, 2014 at 01:44 pm
Extremely good point, Tass Kandle. Makes me wonder about their real motivation.
Jerry Schmidt June 20, 2014 at 02:58 pm
motivation...."Total control"
Buck Harmon April 28, 2014 at 08:38 am
I agree with hope546...this is bullshit, nothing more, the police state evolves. Time to put theRead More brakes on the rapid increase of bad cops on the beat...they are much worse than bad drivers when abusing perceived power...
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p e i May 27, 2014 at 07:28 am
no no no.. its entirely too subjective.. good driver/bad driver... leave the policing to theRead More police... one mans cautious,careful driver is anothers rude, paranoid overly timid driver..one mans rude, speedster is anothers efficient curtious driver...besides,there's too much potential for petty vengeance call rooted in "other than driving" type complainers..
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TheSkalawag May 2, 2014 at 06:50 pm
Fran Armstrong by refusing to expand Medicaid Gov. Deal is sending the money back to Washington andRead More Washington is then giving it to states that are expanding Medicaid. If you are tired of being overlooked vote for Jason Carter for Governor and Michelle Nunn for Senator and back your local democrat in 2014.
Dave May 2, 2014 at 07:43 pm
"even though the cost would be born by the government and wouldn't cost the state a penny.Read More ".........You are misinformed, Fran Armstrong.
Tammy Osier May 4, 2014 at 08:30 am
Dave, could you expand on that? Thanks.
Paul Broun, one of the most staunchly conservative candidates in Georgia's Senate election, is confident he can pull through despite struggles in polling and money.
jMichael April 17, 2014 at 11:28 am
Jonathan Maguire: A man of principle does not pimp his Messiah for political gain; nor does heRead More berray The Promise of Philadelphia for an ancient scroll.
jMichael April 17, 2014 at 11:29 am
Jonathan Maguire: A man of principle does not pimp his Messiah for political gain; nor does heRead More betray The Promise of Philadelphia for an ancient scroll.
TheSkalawag April 17, 2014 at 12:01 pm
Jonathan Maguire I think you know exactly what jMichael and Kathy are saying. --- You are just usingRead More the right-wing ploy of feigning to not understand so that you can appear as though you are trying to being reasonable. I believe you know full well what Rep. Broun's position on the issues are. --- There is no need to " figure out what he stands for" he has made that abundantly clear. --- Determining whether or not "he is a man of principle" depends on whether or not one agrees with HIS fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for HIS system of belief or behavior. And since you are apparently coming to his defense it would seem that YOU do.
David Montgomery April 19, 2014 at 05:02 pm
I'm not a Republican nor am I a Democrat. I have no political party affiliation. I do not own aRead More television; therefore, the news media has no effect on my thinking. The best government is self government. You should resist judging people and jumping to wild assumptions.
jMichael April 19, 2014 at 05:12 pm
My apologies, David. Your FOX-chanted slogan threw me off. Now please respond to the substance ofRead More my comment. How does your slogan match up with the data?
David Montgomery April 19, 2014 at 05:22 pm
A large faction of voters that voted the way they did in the most recent presidential election didRead More so because they were and are looking for some form of government handout. Many exit polls showed this time and time again. Many people don't want to work today; they want someone else to take care of them such as their government. That is the current state of our country. When you rely on government, you lose. Just ask any Hurricane Katrina survivor. No need to reply to me. Have a Happy Easter.
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